Where do I look? What am I looking for? What does it look like? Is it big, or small, fat or tall? Is it a Snipe, or something that you trip over while out Cow Tipping?

My Reps won't ask where it is at. Management says it doesn't exist and that they want to do Delta flying. So where's that cost I'm supposed to look at?

L :eek: :eek: KING EVERYWHERE, haven't found it yet.

You guys stop holding out on me.

Anybody got the intel on two of our FAs getting into it in Rochester, refusing to fly with each other and the flight getting cnx? Some of my pax were talking about it today.

Small jet scope is dead. They need to let that one go because that ship has sailed, and it ain't coming back.:p

You're smarter than that, Johnso. We shouldn't believe either one of the statements above.. Pensions don't have to be DB plans.

OK. then lets consider our flow down agreements. Delta pilots currently have rights to fly Compass airplanes, using CPZ mechanics, Flight Attendants and dispatchers. What is the cost of that? We already have the right to hold concurrent seniority. It would be a status quo change to allow cross bidding if anyone wanted to do that (probably not very popular, but just pointing out what is already agreed to).

Republic has the same list flying Chautauqua, Shuttle America, MidWest, Republic across Certificates. We need to at least get a good handle on how that works. It seems to work well for them:
My point is that NWA pilots did not all walk out with their mechanics. Pilots flew the airplanes. How they staff the rest of the operation really isn't part of our negotiations.

Oh and Republic ordered 80 new narrow body "mainline" jets today. We wet ourselves over 2 777's and MD90's the Chinese don't want anymore.

I hear the phones are ringing off the hook for the reps. Bad news travels fast....

What about defining the city pairs or city size that DCI could fly to. That way main line jets would fly to the larger city pairs leaving the RJs for the small cities that will not support a 100 seat airplane. Could be done on a population basis. that way we are not bringing the smaller jets onboard for DAL pilots to fly and mainline jets stopgetting replaced on big city pairs. THoughts?????

Don Quixote, didn't we go through this last year? And the year before?

Your base statement is wrong. There have been multiple economic analyses done. They've been done by ALPA E&FA, by the Collective Bargaining committee, and by an outside financial advisor. The data isn't public, as I'm sure that you'd prefer we not solidly make management's points for them. But you're flat out wrong.

You talk of job security. How many DCI pilots are on furlough? How many mainline pilots are on furlough? How many 76 seat jets can be added? How many greater than 50 seat jets can be added?

I think he meant pensions in the old form are dead.... and actually aren't something we should want. If it's not in my name, no thanks.

Good points, though.

I think that most of us do not like to see Rj's flying a city pair that used to be mainline. There is nothing wrong with that. To think in terms of furlough fodder is second grade dude. What do you want outsource everything????????

Agreed.

I edited my comment. You're correct that it was an immature emotional response to the series that Bar has posted. As far as outsourcing, though, can you answer the questions I posed?