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dtfl 03-03-2010 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 772574)
It will be a game, and the good thing for Ma Delta is that there are plenty of takers.

DAL needs to be smart and pick the best not the lowest bidder. We don't need the cheapest, crappiest service with DELTA CONNECTION painted on the side causing our customers heartaches!!!!

FmrFreightDog 03-03-2010 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 772573)
You mean I am not the only guy with this flu thingy?


I wish you were....

My oldest kid got it at preschool (aka. petri dish/science experiment/germ factory).... First he got his brother sick, then his mom (aka my wife..), then me...

Much fun.......

Totally feel your pain, T.

NuGuy 03-04-2010 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 772573)
You mean I am not the only guy with this flu thingy?

Nope. It's had me laid flat for more than a week now.

Nu

acl65pilot 03-04-2010 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 772799)
Seriously Check. Did you come from a commuter/regional? Have you talked to pilots from that segment of the industry that are NOT in the top 10% of their respective lists?

MOST of the guys at a regional/commuter DO NOT WANT TO GROW or get larger aircraft!!!!!!

They have realized that growth in a/c size means less long-term earnings. Haven't talked to anyone who thinks that airframe size growth at a regional is good for them. There is a SMALL minority at many regionals who are "lifers" and they have a different agenda. Unfortunately, and it is unfortunate; that minority has usually taken more prominent roles in their MEC administration. Their "official stance" doesn't always represent the desires/ wants of the majority of the line pilots at an airline. (Does that sound familiar at all?)

Back it up a little on the regional guys, they really are just a victims of the vacuum created by the mainline scope blindness.

All good points but like you said, generally the lifers are the ones in control of the MEC. I can tell you that, that appears to be the case at many of them. It is not that they have not tired to leave, the ones I know have been unsuccessful. Because of that they are trying to make their career as best as possible.

I had a talk yesterday with a friend who is nearing his 10th year at a major DCI regional carrier. He wants to leave, does not want more scope concessions, and is hoping that DAL will punch his exit visa next time around. All and all I agree, the problem is that those that want to leave a regional are smart enough not to make waves in their Association.

acl65pilot 03-04-2010 02:48 AM


Originally Posted by dtfl (Post 772886)
DAL needs to be smart and pick the best not the lowest bidder. We don't need the cheapest, crappiest service with DELTA CONNECTION painted on the side causing our customers heartaches!!!!

You misunderstood that. Because there will be plenty of airlines vying for said flying, the current carriers will not have a foot hold and have the ability to demand contracts similar to the FFD model. It has nothing to do with picking the bottom run carrier.

I do like Bar's idea of a resolution coming forward stating that IF any new DCI flying is awarded it needs to go to an ALPA carrier.

aewanabe 03-04-2010 03:31 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 772867)
It is. Control your own destiny.

Sorry, Wrong on that one. The regional guys are stuck flying the stuff we're not smart enough to keep on our lists. The vast majority of guys flying E175s and CRJ900s would rather be flying them on a mainline list (admittedly not all).

I was born with 20/100 vision so flying jets for Uncle Sam was not an option, and several 135 jet jobs pay even worse than the regionals. I fortunately was able to fly nothing bigger than 50 seats and escape, but f even that 50-seater should have been on a mainline list.

Frankly the only real "control" of their destiny these guys have is to not enter the industry at all, or leave it. We need to find a way to control the flying, get it on our lists, rather than point the finger downward.

satchip 03-04-2010 03:48 AM

The sharks are circling...

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forgot to bid 03-04-2010 04:20 AM

Wow, imagine that. Onoe of the two companies that the DOT specifically said that they want to fly into LGA and DCA and who is more than likely lobbying the DOT for such rights might in the end really really want to do it! Yes, funny how sharks tend to circle when not only buckets of chum are thrown in the water.

Hey whats that? Is that a hole in your plane? How did you get a hole in your plane? You got it in flight? Is Delta allowed to have giant holes in the fuselages of their planes in flight? I don't know...

http://blog.flightstory.net/wp-conte...age-circle.jpg

forgot to bid 03-04-2010 04:22 AM

Airbus pledges defense against CSeries encroachment
Wednesday March 3, 2010
Airbus will defend its presence in the under-150-seat market targeted by Bombardier with its CSeries, Head of Marketing Communications Alan Pardoe said yesterday. Speaking at the 24th Annual SpeedNews Commercial Aviation Industry Suppliers Conference in Beverly Hills, Calif., Pardoe noted that an aircraft seating 138 passengers, the configuration chosen by Republic Airways in its recent order for up to 80 CSeries 300s, directly impinges on the A319 market (ATWOnline, Feb. 26). Drawing an analogy between Airbus and the Chinese Year of the Tiger, which began last month, Pardoe said, "the Tiger is not going to let anyone steal a part of its business." Later, in response to a question concerning the challenge posed by the Bombardier product, he joked, "the Tiger is awake and looking at you and he could be getting hungry."

Also during the conference, Teal Group VP-Analysis Richard Aboulafia said he expects Republic's order will hasten plans by Airbus and Boeing to update their respective narrowbody offerings. "Any doubts that I had that a 737/A320 re-engining decision wouldn't take place this year. . .is taken care of by the Republic CSeries order. There are people who say Boeing and Airbus will be happy to give up the 130-seat segment. I doubt it. That's a key part of their volume output. They have no choice but to fight back, to re-engine what they already have," he said.

acl65pilot 03-04-2010 04:24 AM

I agree. Republic getting that order is imo a sure sign that DAL definitely decided to go with another option.


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