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johnso29 03-03-2010 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by yamahas3 (Post 772530)
Even more sad is that you apparently do not.

I heard half of all the RJs in the country have "DELTA" written on the side.

I highly doubt that, & considering the # of 50 seaters removed from Delta's DCI fleet in the last 1.5 years it's even less probable.

sinca3 03-03-2010 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by yamahas3 (Post 772519)
Moak is in it for Moak and doesn't care about the pilots, our careers, or really anything else but him.

And guess what, if he went for ALPA President.... Moak would be in it for Moak and wouldn't care about the pilots, our careers, or really anything else but him.

Where do you come up with this crap? Have you ever talked to Moak? Have you been to any LEC or any ALPA event or meeting?
Throwing wild accusations around is like me walking into your cockpit and saying you are a **** poor pilot all b/c I had a bad experience in the previous leg of my trip.

johnso29 03-03-2010 12:20 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 772559)
You need a history lesson on where scope was conceded and by which MEC.

I do not like scope concessions any more than the next guy. I have to tell you that if the regional world is banking their career on another sale, they will be sorely disappointed. If you saw the way these DCI contracts are written, you would be updating your log books.

Yup. It's going to get real ugly for the regionals. If people thought they were undercutting now, just wait. Why do you think Bedford is steering RAH to the road of independence?(Although I hope they blow a tire & run off into the canyon exploding on impact)

Delta actually has already done an agreement of the future. A few years ago they did a pro-rate at risk contract with ExpressJet for DCI flying out of LAX. XE was responsible for their own fuel, & if the route made $$$ so did XE. But if the route lost $$$, so did ExpressJet.

Needless to say, the agreement was mutually terminated in less then 2 years. The regional gravy train is reaching the end of the tracks.

tsquare 03-03-2010 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 772557)
Probably Taco Bell, or maybe it is the flu that everyone is getting! :eek:


You mean I am not the only guy with this flu thingy?

acl65pilot 03-03-2010 12:27 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 772569)
Yup. It's going to get real ugly for the regionals. If people thought they were undercutting now, just wait. Why do you think Bedford is steering RAH to the road of independence?(Although I hope they blow a tire & run off into the canyon exploding on impact)

Delta actually has already done an agreement of the future. A few years ago they did a pro-rate at risk contract with ExpressJet for DCI flying out of LAX. XE was responsible for their own fuel, & if the route made $$$ so did XE. But if the route lost $$$, so did ExpressJet.

Needless to say, the agreement was mutually terminated in less then 2 years. The regional gravy train is reaching the end of the tracks.

Correct, the only quid on this is that the regionals may try to play hard ball with airlines like DAL. Knowing that to keep their feed intact they need the lift. It will be a game, and the good thing for Ma Delta is that there are plenty of takers.

At risk flying will destroy the regionals. Airlines like ASA are trying to implement PBS just to get them close to their DOS+5 contractual resets. This year will prove very interesting for those that are up against that.

acl65pilot 03-03-2010 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 772573)
You mean I am not the only guy with this flu thingy?

Seems like half of DAL is coming down with it. I know 10 guys that are alternating between sitting and standing in front of Ma Porcelain! :eek:

tsquare 03-03-2010 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 772575)
Seems like half of DAL is coming down with it. I know 10 guys that are alternating between sitting and standing in front of Ma Porcelain! :eek:

No bus driving for me... thank goodness.

Mesabah 03-03-2010 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 772569)
Yup. It's going to get real ugly for the regionals. If people thought they were undercutting now, just wait. Why do you think Bedford is steering RAH to the road of independence?(Although I hope they blow a tire & run off into the canyon exploding on impact)

Buried in the press release for the RAH C series order is the exclusive rights to all GTF warranty service rights to RAH for the next 15 years. If Boeing and Airbus put that thing on their next gen airplanes RAH will be sitting pretty. This is the same reason nwa bought the 787, it was a crap airplane but they were going for the exclusive maintenance rights for the plane, funny how when that deal fell through the plane was shelved for 777s.

acl65pilot 03-03-2010 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 772581)
Buried in the press release for the RAH C series order is the exclusive rights to all GTF warranty service rights to RAH for the next 15 years. If Boeing and Airbus put that thing on their next gen airplanes RAH will be sitting pretty. This is the same reason nwa bought the 787, it was a crap airplane but they were going for the exclusive maintenance rights for the plane, funny how when that deal fell through the plane was shelved for 777s.

That alone will probably scrap the airplane. No I am not kidding.

RAH is not known for their mtc as it is outsourced, so it will just be a shell game.

Superpilot92 03-03-2010 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 772573)
You mean I am not the only guy with this flu thingy?

I dont have the flu but my family and I all came down with the nasty cough, sinus pressure, and drainage crud. My house is full of fun right now...:eek:


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