I still have issues with overthrusting.

And Lee Moak's benefit in that is......?

And just what exactly do you base this on??? :mad:
Your status shows "furloughed". If so, from where? Because if its DAL or NWA you are furloughed by choice, and so I don't think you have much to base your comments on. And if its from another carrier, you have even less evidence.

I sense a great disturbance in the force.

Or mebby it was Taco Bell...

NC elections are coming up at the March MEC meeting. Be sure to tell your reps who's on your ****e lists.

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If management won't operate the CRJ's at mainline, then scope relief benefits mainline pilots in the feed they provide. This is Moak's stance the best I can tell. As said before the RJ's are a temporary solution to managements long term problem; the union and the LCC's....

Ya know, when it came out I was not happy that there was no word of it prior to the announcement of it. That was my issue.

Fact is that, it was smart. From a legal perspective, as in lawyer talk, it is a huge win to get that definition defined and in black and white. Court, or in our case arbitration is never a sure thing. Even if you have all the facts on your side, there is no guarantee that the decision will fall to your side. Those are the inconvenient facts guys.

I detest anything to do with allowing more jets on property of DCI, but in the end getting the wording to side with D-ALPA's definition in an agreement was huge. It stinks that it allowed more 76 seat jets, but the slide was capped under this interpretation of the CBA wording. Per the agreement we are capped at 153 76 seat jets until DAL adds the 763 airframe here. We are currently at 732 mainline jets, so that is a lot of growth before one more 76 seat jet shows up. (none of the options are converted so keep watching the companies feet)

We live in a legal word and now that this verbiage has a black and white meaning that both sides have agreed to, there is no more room to wrangle.

As to yamais, point on Lee. I like 12000 other pilots many not side with all of his decisions, but he is not self serving without regard to the pilots he represents. I have talked to him, and I have to tell you, that his intent is represent us the best as a single man can. I have respect for that. I do not have to agree with everything, and as an engaged pilot, I shouldn't, but to blasphemy a professional that way, is just wrong. (If it was remotely true the MEC reps would have ousted him a long time ago.)
Be ****ed, but do it for the correct reasons.

So do 177 757's; the largest fleet of them in the world.

At last glance the total number of RJ's were just below 700. 50 more 50's parked this year.

Probably Taco Bell, or maybe it is the flu that everyone is getting! :eek:

You need a history lesson on where scope was conceded and by which MEC.

I do not like scope concessions any more than the next guy. I have to tell you that if the regional world is banking their career on another sale, they will be sorely disappointed. If you saw the way these DCI contracts are written, you would be updating your log books.

Never forget that having third party contractors allows the debt service and underwriting for all of that lift to be assumed by someone other than the mainline carrier. That alone is worth billions a year to a major's bottom line.

It is not all about the pilots. I know that of all regional guys, you are aware of the financial impact of this type of arrangement is. Not going after you.

Airlines need to change this, but once again, it was a cure all band aid at the time.