Ya know, haven't heard. It's mostly on routes vs bases, so you will see it if you go from a west coast gateway to Hawaii or west coast gateway to a hub. As I've said many times, you can call a 767 a widebody if ya want, as long as I can call a 757-300 a LONG body:eek:

Ferd

Bar,

I wouldn't put too much into those numbers. October was the first month that we up north switched over to the "waiting for your numbers before you push" mode. Everyone had to adjust to the new system: agents, pilots, rampers, ect.


That might explain some of the numbers for October. It's gotten a little better over time....

How about this one from LGA. 13 hours for a 2 day isn't bad at all, if you live in base. Otherwise it's 13 hours for a 4 day. Yuck.

CHECK-IN AT 5.00

DAY FLIGHT T DEPARTS ARRIVES C BLK. EQ ACT/MAX
A 531 LGA 0600 ATL 0842* 2.42 757
675 ATL 1000 STT 1446 3.46 9.16/12.00

B 674 STT 1548 ATL 1904 4.16
676 ATL 2140 LGA 2358 2.18 10.40/12.06

TOTALS---13.02TL 13.02BL .00CR TAFB 43.28

Also wasn't the closure of rwy 30R a driver of delays?

Yup..........the Godfather is in Saipan, right across the street from the Blue Koi. Don't ask, joe momma wouldn't approve:D

You made the Staircase? What about the JetLag or the BargeInn? Sorry I missed you and Cog out here, I'm headed home tomorrow after 10 days:cool: I won't be out in Jan with stub vacation and 767 bounces but maybe Feb?

You still available for AE coaching?

Ferd

Make sure you like the trips you see. Right now a crappy Sao Paulo, a bunch of low time Hawaii, and 10.5 hr 3-day Guatemala. The rest is all domestic. That's the way it'll probably stay for at least the near future. There was talk of 767's LAX to NRT but that's been squashed. You'll find at DL LAX is kind of the dog begging for scraps under the table waiting to be slapped while ATL and NY feast on fine European food, wine, and beer. :)

There is no crashpad that works for all three airports.

A bird's eyeview will make you think EWR really isn't that far. After all, on a map, EWR is only about an inch or so from your favorite LGA crashpad. But try to time it using public transportation, or even your own transportation, and you quickly realize it's not a drive as much as it is a pilgrimage. With self-flogging end everything.

The beauty of the ER was that nearly 100% of flying was international flying out of JFK. As such, it was simply a question of changing the destination of your commute, finding a comfortable enough place in Kew Gradens, and off you went. I can't speak to the quality of the crashpads, but it seems logical that it's related to to the price of real estate. When I commuted to MCO (real estate was reasonable in FL then), I had a fantastic crashpad.
The same $ probably would have got me hot-bunking in a four-bed closet in New York.

Now that some of the flying will go to the 764, and with an increasing portion of domestic flying done on the NYC ER, we're seeing turns, two-day trips, with various permutations around the three airports, and various start and end times, not usually too commuter friendly.

The main redeeming quality to New York ER had been the destination quality and variety, and the predictability of afternoon sign-ins and returns. That will remain true, for the senior among us. But I don't think it's ever been about how friendly the crashpads are, or how easy the commute is. And it's definitely not going to be true for the junior guys. We're going to have to be rather... adaptable.

Come to New York because you'll be senior enough, and you still like the flying as it is, and as it is becoming, but don't come to New York thinking it's going to be easy in terms of commuting, or crashpads. There is a reason we had newhires on the ER, and that was when the ER was pure international, with rather primo destinations.

Bar,

You might want to check our numbers for the 6 months before that. I think you'll find a significant amount of 100% completion days. In Oct MSP had one of the parallel runways shut down, & winter was starting. It severely hampered the operation. Also, Detroit was having construction done to numerous taxi ways & the 9/27 runways of which 9L/27R intersects with 21R. This prevented departures or arrivals on 21R increasing taxi times significantly. The October #'s are not indicative of the normal operation.

DTW airport runs very efficiently, & since DAL started making the block times I've often been 15-30+ minutes early on many of flights.

Yeah I know and why I'm waffle'en on making a move till they actually move the flying. I've been looking at the 'ER trips in LAX and the variety is much better in MSP so far.....

Always remember.............indecision is the key to flexibility:D

Ferd

Realistically, I think if you commute you have to call this a 4-5 day trip. Fly in the night before and book a hotel, sleep in the crew room or book another hotel when you get back.

EWR doth suck.