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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 823242)
Buzz, Ferd, remember when mx, atoc, And ops all worked for different colonels? We were constantly fighting over who took the delay. Maybe we Delta should follow the AF and put the whole flying operation under one boss, Flight Ops. Everyone responsible for the execution of the mission would be accountable to the SVP of FO. Do you think that would help to eliminate some of our problems?
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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 823238)
Not as bad as some of the short time hotels in Angeles City we were put up in but close.
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 823253)
The bar staff at those Philippine hotels was nice though.
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.........................heheheheheehh
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Originally Posted by satchip
(Post 823256)
Fifth from the left. I'd pay that bar fine.
OK Joe. You want short time or long time? Pay at the bar. If you leaving with her, don't forget the papers. http://www.yellowairplane.com/pics/V...neOlongapo.jpg The girls in Olongapo had one helluva "scope clause". ALPA could learn a thing or two. Bad news if one of them got caught in the wrong club with a sailor and no permission papers. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 823224)
Actually there is a company that is trying to retrofit current airplanes for that. They put an electric motor on the nose gear and the plane can taxi up to 20 K with the electrics alone. Airplane could push itself back from the gate and then taxi all day with only the APU providing electric power. They demoed a fully loaded 767 taxiing with it up in Canada. Delta bought into the company and was supposed to be testing 737-800's by now. We had some rights to market and install the kits. This whole venture just dropped off the radar and we haven't heard about it for a long time. Maybe when fuel is $100+ a barrel again it will resurface. Maybe someone with an inside track into flight ops can let us know what's up with that project.
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
(Post 823240)
Come on you guys, don't kid kidders. You guys single engine taxi just to get your butts outta the alleys in ATL faster:D. Unless you're headed for a long line up, your approaching the end of the runway and you still need your engine warm up time. Also, if your headed up the hill in SEA, take a look at the fuel flows. You'll see that you're actually burning more gas one one engine getting up the hill than in idle on two.....or so I'm told. Now, taxi in.......whole nudder matter, we do that some time, think NRT and the B runway or DTW.
APU, usage.......did it before the merger. The battle is with the rampers where you're always reinventing the wheel. NRT, in fact all of Japan, again whole nudder matter......you're plugged in before the engine shuts down.:cool: Seriously, it's going to take a mixing of the cultures somewhat. On the 757 we didn't have a procedure for SSE taxi out (did on the -9 and I think the Airbus did too) but we also had that bad accident in MSP where the -9 ran into the A320. Lots of guys just believe nothing good can come of it for the small amount of gas saved unless it's an obvious situation. I agree it does probably save gas. But, then I see the other ways we pi$$ it away with poor gate planning, ramper buffonery etc etc. It'll change I'm sure. Ferd BTW, I agree with you about all the other little areas Delta throws money away. While that is very frustrating, I just don't think it leads to a logical conclusion that we shouldn't care and try to operate efficiently whenever we can do so safely and without compromising our product to our customers. Anyway... just my "2 cents", FWIW. |
Here an old Delta press release about the no-engine taxi...from 2007:
Delta Looks to Simplify Tow and Tug Processes on Taxiways Delta Looks to Simplify Tow and Tug Processes on Taxiways Ability to drive aircraft on taxiways will help airline reduce flight delays and fuel consumption Mar 29, 2007 GIBRALTAR, March 29, 2007 – WheelTug plc and Delta Air Lines entered into an agreement in which the airline will assist WheelTug in developing a new system that has the potential to enable pilots to back away from gates without a tow tug, and taxi to and from takeoff and landing points without using jet engines. The new WheelTug™ system aims to reduce fuel consumption, noise and emissions in airport terminal areas and taxiways, as well as reduce airport and gate congestion that can lead to reduced ground equipment delays. "Certainly we expect this to be a ‘win’ for us on the business side by reducing our costs, but we’re also excited about the potential for removing some complexity from gate operations for our ground personnel and doing it in an environmentally friendly fashion,” said Walt Klein, Delta’s director of Quality, Engineering and Training. Full development and approval of the system is expected sometime in 2009 and Delta, as WheelTug’s launch customer, could begin installing the system on its fleet of B-737NG aircraft as early as late 2009. The WheelTug system includes powerful electric motors in the airplane's nose wheel that will enable pilots to back away from gates without a tow tug and then taxi to their takeoff, or a remote start point before starting the airplane's engines. After landing, the pilot can turn off the jet engines and use the system to drive the airplane to its gate. Further, the agreement gives Delta the right of first refusal to provide installation and maintenance services on WheelTug systems for itself and for other airlines that desire such services. Delta already performs maintenance for more than 100 customers and this could serve as another opportunity to continue to grow its maintenance insourcing business. Delta has also acquired warrants to buy 600,000 shares of WheelTug plc at an average price of $36 per share. Isaiah W. Cox, president of WheelTug, said, "We are delighted that Delta is our U.S. development partner. Delta's passengers will be the first to realize its benefits, and we believe that over time WheelTug will provide welcome benefits to all fliers, airlines, and airports." Delta Air Lines (Other OTC: DALRQ) offers customers service to more destinations than any global airline with Delta and Delta Connection carrier service to 308 destinations in 52 countries. With more than 60 new international routes added in the last year, Delta is America’s fastest growing international airline and is a leader across the Atlantic with flights to 31 trans-Atlantic destinations. To Latin America and the Caribbean, Delta offers more than 600 weekly flights to 58 destinations. Delta's marketing alliances also allow customers to earn and redeem SkyMiles on more than 14,000 flights offered by SkyTeam and other partners. Delta is a founding member of SkyTeam, a global airline alliance that provides customers with extensive worldwide destinations, flights and services. Including its SkyTeam and worldwide codeshare partners, Delta offers flights to 458 worldwide destinations in 99 countries. Customers can check in for flights, print boarding passes and check flight status at delta.com. WheelTug plc is a majority-owned subsidiary of Chorus Motors plc (US OTC: CHOMF). Chorus has developed the proprietary Chorus® Star and Chorus® Meshcon™ electric motor technologies, which offer substantial performance improvements over comparable motor and drive systems. The Chorus systems produce high torque at start-up speeds and are ideal for traction applications besides aircraft, including automobiles, trucks, locomotives, and ships. Please visit WheelTug’s website at WheelTug plc and read the forward-looking statement at http://www.wheeltug.gi/fls.html |
Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
(Post 823268)
For example, 29 knots of ground speed was the magic number on the 88 to make it up the 26L hill.
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
(Post 823272)
It would be interesting to know how many million$ that one hill has cost Delta over the years.
Jet makes a lot of noise with the gear down doing 210ish.......but at least you slowdown fast. |
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