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If you pick-up a GS on a day off on reserve, does scheduling automatically move the day forward, or do they sometimes need to be reminded? I started a GS trip as a REG pilot yesterday with a trip that spills into April when I'm a reserve pilot. Also, the trip ends with a redeye that gets in on the 2nd. Do they owe me one or two days back for the first two days of April? Thanks for your help.
The day and or portion thereof will be moved to the next available day. If it does not happen today, call em and ask.
If you started the trip on an x day on the 31st of March, that day might become a payback day. If you are on x days for April 1 and 2 then these days should show up following your GS trip.

I just re-read your post. Disregard my first sentence!

Denny
Quote: If the NC was made 4 pilots so it could be 2 and 2 for "damage control" then that is a massive failure of leadership. In fact it would just validate the divisive politics that marked the last few weeks. I don't care if the NC is north/south or whatever, I just want the best guys to go get me a contract. If compromises were made to satisfy petty politics then that is a failure of the MEC.
Ahhh, more leadership buzzwords. What's next? Some motivational posters on the crew room walls? That tired mantra and quotes out of the Boy Scout Leadership manual will get you nowhere with the north group other than snickered at for your naivete.

Besides, what failure? Pilots were unhappy with the way they were being represented. They sent a message to their reps. Their reps sent a message to the MEC officers.

If the message was received, then I'd call that great leadership, which, by the way, is not leading the pilot group around by the nose. Compromise is the nature of the beast.

The MEC saw a problem and they fixed it, or at least part of it. Problems the MEC officers were either unable or unwilling to come to grips with.

Fortunately, the message was sent loud and clear, and we got absolutely outstanding people on the committee, and I understand that the "front end" got the message, which was a nice bonus.

Sounds like pretty good leadership to me.

The process is that the NWA pilots had an issue with the agreement. They greived it. A process that has been subsumed by people who may not be so interested in letting it run its course. Fair enough. Step aside, and let those who want to pursue it do so. You can wash your hands of the whole thing and say "whelp, we told ya so" if the result you seem so sure of comes to pass. That would earn you a LOT of props.

But don't take managament's side. That is not helping your cause, and makes you look like a flaming DB.

Nu
Warning Yellow Slip!
Ok, I'm an idiot, but wanted to remind everyone about this so no one else pulls the same bone-headed maneuver that I did today.

Lowering your RAW by 15 pts is a YELLOW SLIP REQUEST!

+12 hours to report you are contractually required to fly the rotation.

I got short call for tomorrow with a commutable start (first day on) and then, wanting to fly rather than sit short call, I lowered my RAW. I'm all set to commute in the morning, and the last flight tonight has already left. Ring . . . "Crew Scheduling, we have a trip tomorrow with a 6am-ish report, I'll mark you notified" . . . Me (sounding very stupid) "I didn't realize that by lowering my RAW it was considered a Yellow Slip"

Somewhere along the way I knew this, but just didn't put 2 and 2 together. I'm not complaining here as this was completely my screw-up, but just don't want anyone else to unwittingly make the same mistake.
Yep, it lowers your raw and puts in a yellow. If you are not on reserve today DO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE!
Quote: Ok, I'm an idiot, but wanted to remind everyone about this so no one else pulls the same bone-headed maneuver that I did today.

Lowering your RAW by 15 pts is a YELLOW SLIP REQUEST!

+12 hours to report you are contractually required to fly the rotation.

I got short call for tomorrow with a commutable start (first day on) and then, wanting to fly rather than sit short call, I lowered my RAW. I'm all set to commute in the morning, and the last flight tonight has already left. Ring . . . "Crew Scheduling, we have a trip tomorrow with a 6am-ish report, I'll mark you notified" . . . Me (sounding very stupid) "I didn't realize that by lowering my RAW it was considered a Yellow Slip"

Somewhere along the way I knew this, but just didn't put 2 and 2 together. I'm not complaining here as this was completely my screw-up, but just don't want anyone else to unwittingly make the same mistake.
WOW!!! Raw score, yellow slip, short call, long call, international rest, domestic rest,when you can get a call, when you check the computer, move days, etc.etc. Sure seems like this reserve thing is way to complicated. Is there a bullet point gouge out there concerning reserve?????
Quote: I'm not a spelling or word Nazi and don't take this the wrong way, but just FYI, there is no such word as Irregardless. It is just regardless.
Im sure that Nu would cede your point about spelling should you to agree to no more combination run-on/ comma splice sentences.

G
Quote: Ahhh, more leadership buzzwords. What's next? Some motivational posters on the crew room walls? That tired mantra and quotes out of the Boy Scout Leadership manual will get you nowhere with the north group other than snickered at for your naivete.

Besides, what failure? Pilots were unhappy with the way they were being represented. They sent a message to their reps. Their reps sent a message to the MEC officers.

If the message was received, then I'd call that great leadership, which, by the way, is not leading the pilot group around by the nose. Compromise is the nature of the beast.

The MEC saw a problem and they fixed it, or at least part of it. Problems the MEC officers were either unable or unwilling to come to grips with.

Fortunately, the message was sent loud and clear, and we got absolutely outstanding people on the committee, and I understand that the "front end" got the message, which was a nice bonus.

Sounds like pretty good leadership to me.

The process is that the NWA pilots had an issue with the agreement. They greived it. A process that has been subsumed by people who may not be so interested in letting it run its course. Fair enough. Step aside, and let those who want to pursue it do so. You can wash your hands of the whole thing and say "whelp, we told ya so" if the result you seem so sure of comes to pass. That would earn you a LOT of props.

But don't take managament's side. That is not helping your cause, and makes you look like a flaming DB.

Nu
You are real good at making personal attacks but on substance, not so much. Tell me what buzzwords am I using, what motivational boy scout slogans am I using. Snicker away I guess that's all you have when you don't have any facts to back you up.

Leadership is leading, it is not taking the temperature of the situation and adjusting your principles to fit the swaying winds. If leadership means we remain a balkanized group, where identity politics means more than success, where any small group can threaten and intimidate to get their way then you should really snicker away. That is not leadership, that is pandering to the masses. If we do it your way, what is going to happen when we have tough decisions to make. More pandering? If that is how you think leadership is then heaven help us.
Quote: Yep, it lowers your raw and puts in a yellow. If you are not on reserve today DO NOT ANSWER THE PHONE!

I believe that was my BIGGER mistake of the afternoon . Had I just let it go to voicemail would they move on to the next guy or am I responsible to check my schedule/voicemail and make the trip anyway? I am off today.
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