Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
07-02-2010, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I think you need to call your DTW reps. Talk to them, and then tell me that the above statement is really any fear of theirs.
Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
johns29, much to everyone's apparent misunderstanding on this web board, LM is not a dictator with evil hypnotic powers. He is an elected leader, who is accountable to the will of the MEC and can be recalled at anytime by them. Additionally, the MEC must ratify every LOA by a majority vote. If your elected reps disagree with everything he says (which I seriously doubt), then they need to be able to convince half the MEC they are right and he is wrong. That's how change happens, as it should.
It amazes me how much power people on this board think LM has. Despite repeated changes on the MEC throughout his four years, he's still there. Perhaps, just perhaps, he really is accomplishing the will of the MEC, rather than leading them like some blind dog.
It amazes me how much power people on this board think LM has. Despite repeated changes on the MEC throughout his four years, he's still there. Perhaps, just perhaps, he really is accomplishing the will of the MEC, rather than leading them like some blind dog.
Originally Posted by Splash
Replace your reps!
I got a chance to hear LM here in NRT earlier this year. It's pretty clear to me that LM has the support of our reps because he's doing things right. You might disagree with my observation, but I think the facts show who's right.
I got a chance to hear LM here in NRT earlier this year. It's pretty clear to me that LM has the support of our reps because he's doing things right. You might disagree with my observation, but I think the facts show who's right.
I just hope he protects us all with this. The flow agreement is our most powerful furlough deterrent. Please do us right Mr. Moak.
07-02-2010, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
I retract my statement. It was incorrect. I think LM got the best he could on the last scope issue.
07-02-2010, 12:03 PM
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And although the flow would appear to effect only the bottom of the list, senior guys pay attention! You have a dog in this fight too. Thinking you'll upgrade soon? No. Think you'll hold that line on the 757? No again....it's back to reserve. Negative movement and further more, the ability to stop it, is good for the ENTIRE seniority list. Not just those near the bottom.
I guess something to ponder. Personally the flowback saved my job. I'm sure of it. I'm also sure it allowed more senior pilots to hold those lines, or hold the seats they were on.
fly2002
I guess something to ponder. Personally the flowback saved my job. I'm sure of it. I'm also sure it allowed more senior pilots to hold those lines, or hold the seats they were on.
fly2002
07-02-2010, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by flyallnite
D.O.T. FAIL
last year about 1mil, evidently we need new lobbyists!
07-02-2010, 03:29 PM
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Ironically, DAL was ok with the DOT ruling. However, USAir was not.
07-02-2010, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Ironically, DAL was ok with the DOT ruling. However, USAir was not.
07-02-2010, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
I'm becoming very cynical first JAL now LGA what next will we drop the JFK terminal upgrade?
Problem with JAL was the DOT/DOJ, problem with LGA is the DOT/DOJ, if they can get their rotten hands on the terminal upgrade they'll kill that too. The smartest thing DAL could've done was move the headquarters to MSP, a swing state.
IMHO, some say there is a way that if we take this to court then all slots are dropped. If so, great. Fight for a new rule, nothing less than 150 seats in LGA, JFK, EWR and DCA.
Waivers permitted for aircraft that seat less than 150 seats but they may not exceed, whether inbound or outbound, an altitude of 12000' within a range of 375nm of the airport (i.e. LGA-RDU/CMH/CLE) and they're landing fee shall be 2X that of an aircraft with greater than 150 seats.
If the aircraft is a turboprop then the landing fee will equal that of a 150 seater.
And let people compete. Otherwise, let us own our long standing slots and do with them as we please regardless of what one loud crony capitalist airline says.
If the aircraft is a turboprop then the landing fee will equal that of a 150 seater.
07-02-2010, 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
How much did we spend on lobbying
last year about 1mil, evidently we need new lobbyists!
last year about 1mil, evidently we need new lobbyists!
07-02-2010, 04:09 PM
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fly, I'd say the flowback helped save junior pilots from being furloughed. I think a lot was in play there with economic uncertainty and subsequent company planning, the union and flight ops plus the cost of the flowback that helped, imho, cement the don't furlough plan.
As to how the elimination of the flowback affects senior pilots, I don't think it does. I think only growth or reduction in DCI affects senior pilots.
And you have no idea how much I tried to ensure I had the right affect/effect here. Geeish.
As to how the elimination of the flowback affects senior pilots, I don't think it does. I think only growth or reduction in DCI affects senior pilots.
And you have no idea how much I tried to ensure I had the right affect/effect here. Geeish.
07-02-2010, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by firstmob
How much did we spend on lobbying
last year about 1mil, evidently we need new lobbyists!
last year about 1mil, evidently we need new lobbyists!
First,
US and DL will wisely wait until the next regime change to complete the deal. LGA isn't going anywhere, but Washington execs come and go. In the meantime, NY will have to live with substandard service and facilities for the next few years, thanks to their friendly neighborhood FEDS
LaHood can pat himself on the back for creating an environment in which nobody wins.
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