Originally Posted by Waves (Post 793380)

Good decision. Difficult to argue with that last point. By the way, I wasn't the one who initiated that conversation. We all are entitled to complain, but let's keep it real and not try to convince DAL S guys that DAL N guys took a pay cut. It's BS and we don't want to hear it. Complain about real things and we will all get along and complain together as one unified whinny pilot group like always. :D

By the way, where did you get the finger wagger? I like it.

Originally Posted by FIIGMO (Post 793777)

Yesterday while flying out of Atlanta, I have to say my uneasiness about becoming a reluctant transcon commuter was realized in a big way. Captain of the flight had a hall from A1 gate to E1 gate for a 46 minute turn and although I had everything ready to go the gate agent would not allow 9 passengers and 3 non-revs on to the aircraft because it was with in 5 minutes of departure. The big deal was that one of the people waiting for the gate agent to come to his senses was the Captain of the flight!

All in all when the gate agent decided to listen for just a moment everyone was boarded and we left only 7 minutes late.

So I ask all of my flying peers to help out all of us employees, pilots commuting, employee families taking that one vacation together or for crying out loud the passenger paying our salaries, by checking with the gate and even walking the boarding area to see if anyone will be left behind because of the OT zero debacle (and gate agents feeling they control the jumpseat). I know we cant always get everyone on but sometimes the guy with 4 stripes or even 3 stripes can do a lot to get everyone on board.

Sorry to rant but asking for help from the guys and gals flying the line seems to be better than having high blood pressure and being angry....

Thanks again for looking out for one another especially when more than a few of us are now forced to commute......

BTW we did make phone calls about this particular incident and it met with less than confident results. But we are not done making calls either..


Thanks

Originally Posted by ExAF (Post 793854)

Waves....This is just another case of "the regulars on this board have hashed and re-hashed this argument over and over and over before you joined." It's new to you but a dead horse for those that have been here for a while. That's why you are getting the "stir the pot" comments.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 793857)

In DTW especially, it helps if you are a little "proactive" with the gate agents. If you go out to the podium and let them know that you want to make sure all the non-revs get on, they kind of get the message and know that you will not leave with a seat open. In situations where you can figure out who the non rev's are, it also helps to go over to them and let them know that you know about them and that you are doing everything you can to make sure they get on. If the agents see this, they also know that you kind of know who to be looking out for. Most of the agents in DTW go on trips and non rev out of there all them time. So, they appreciate what you are doing and are cool about it.

Originally Posted by Waves (Post 793858)

Yeah, I know, but as I have said in my last few posts, my goal is not to stir the pot, rather it is to fully understand why so many of the Northerners feel like they got shafted in this merger. Most of my posts have actually been defensive in nature. This issue may be a dead horse, but a lot of DAL N guys are still riding it. I just want to understand why. I don't get to fly with DAL N guys, and probably won't anytime soon, so this is my only real method of getting other's view points. Until I get my arms around this issue, I will undoubtedly keep flogging that dead horse.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 793857)

In DTW especially, it helps if you are a little "proactive" with the gate agents. If you go out to the podium and let them know that you want to make sure all the non-revs get on, they kind of get the message and know that you will not leave with a seat open. In situations where you can figure out who the non rev's are, it also helps to go over to them and let them know that you know about them and that you are doing everything you can to make sure they get on. If the agents see this, they also know that you kind of know who to be looking out for. Most of the agents in DTW go on trips and non rev out of there all them time. So, they appreciate what you are doing and are cool about it.

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 793795)

I love this bar!!

Godfathers on Saipan, my favorite spot in the whole system, including AMS....but I understand I need to see Sal Palo.

YouTube - GODFATHERS I LOVE THIS BAR - DUMB ASS EDIT

That's the owner who walks in right at the end. Also, I've never seen anyone with a cowboy hat....guess they did that for the video. But, I did recognize several of the old expats I know from happy hour.

Ferd

Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 793866)

then start reading posts from back in 2008 and try and keep up. No need to for you to stir the pot or beat the dead horse. ;)

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...dead-horse.gif

Originally Posted by Waves (Post 793858)

Yeah, I know, but as I have said in my last few posts, my goal is not to stir the pot, rather it is to fully understand why so many of the Northerners feel like they got shafted in this merger. Most of my posts have actually been defensive in nature. This issue may be a dead horse, but a lot of DAL N guys are still riding it. I just want to understand why. I don't get to fly with DAL N guys, and probably won't anytime soon, so this is my only real method of getting other's view points. Until I get my arms around this issue, I will undoubtedly keep flogging that dead horse.

Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 793779)

I'm trying to read how to integrate AWABS into the Bus after learning the North MGL for 5 weeks. I would rather look at Cheerleader pics.

Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 793762)

I'm Here!!!!

ACL and all, it seems better on the line..... Finishing OE on the Bus today. Everyone at the training center was great. Showed up in my new base a few days ago and guys were stumbling over each other to say hello and introduce themselves to the new Delta South guy. Everyone has been really outgoing and accommodating.

I'm sure that I'll fly with a guy every now and then that might be dis-gruntled, but that happened prior to the merger. He's got one leg to ***** up a storm..... I'll listen, but after that, I just want to press on, get the job done and have a good trip. I think most of us "Line Dogs" are that way. I've already had the discussion with a couple of guys that I want to hear everyones story, but at the end of the day it doesn't matter to me if I'm flying with a "Red Book", "Green Book" or Delta South guy...... Just want to get the job done safely and enjoy my rotation.

Now, let's look forward....... 2012