Wasn't there the point that they did not like 100 seat jets but SD was traveling to YUL last night to have dinner with the Prez, of Bombardier? I found that interesting. :rolleyes:

Told you they were divided on the ATL767 category.....

He is a lawyer and he is choosing what he is stating publicly very carefully. :eek:

The MD-90 is a great band aid that will bridge the gap to the decision and production point for the band aid 73N or 320. It could if needed fill the gap to the E version of those jets as well. It is the whole notion of spending 5 billion in technology that the manufactures have stated is going to be replaced in the next 12 years.
IMO, we need to do some of replacement now as our delivery cycle of these jets will be too slow to replace what is on property now. We will be over the barrel with our fleet which will force us to pay a higher price for these jets and jump to the front of the line. Not because we will want to but because we will need to.
For the reason above I see DAL doing some very specific fleet renewal over the next 2-5 years. If the "right" jet is revamped we will order big as it will allow us a rational retirement of the fleet. The current 320/73n's would leave in the 2025 time frame with the new order that will be coming in the next five years leaving after 2029. It allows us to be in a better position when we are in the market for a fleet that will take us to 2050.

NLT than 37-38 for you super. Almost 30 years as boss. Go enjoy that. :D

AWABS conversion update trivia for DAL-N pilots.

I was on one of the 11 flights that started the wide body AWABS conversion on 10 April.

Flight Plan Upload Successful?

10 April NO, not working on company side
12 April NO, supposed to work but would not uplink. Help desk said after two tries, its not going to work for that leg.
13 April NO, Mechanic entered From/TO info on INIT page. No prompt.

Do not enter any info on INIT page of MCDU. If you do the Uplink prompt goes away and you can't get it back for that leg.

AWABS also for some reason broke the Digital ATIS via ACARS at some of the Asia stations. Not sure why.

AWABS Flight Paperwork Package at Narita. Waited for 35 minutes before the envelope showed up. Might be a printer issue since AWABS uses dot matrix and NRT had converted to laser for most paperwork.

Pre AWABS Enroute Winds could be updated at 0000Z, 0600z, 1200z, 1800z

Post AWABS Enroute Winds - you can update all you want (if uplink is working) but its going to be the same winds you had at start of leg.

Performance Index (not Cost Index) supposed to be uplinked with Flight Plan.

ICAO Flight Plan

Pre AWABS you got the actual text used to file your flight plan.
Post AWABS you get a sterilized version. You won't see if you were filed using TAS or Mach and you won't see the change in FL filed at a given way point.

Don't ask the FO for help, he doesn't get a copy of the Release.

WDR seems to be working.

More later after leg #4.

I have a question for TOGA LK.

Why is it that you ask this question of a specific group of Delta pilots when the Alaska code share was imported from the NWA CBA? It was the NWA (primarily Seattle) operation that required AS feed (over 20,000 coded flights per month).

Nobody is "excited" about outsourcing. I think many on here are realistic, however. There's no way DAL could have profitably replaced the AS feed that was already under contract. Not having that feed means no West Coast gateways for Delta pilots.

One other point, how is the 717 production line doing?:D

I don't think a new airplane has rolled out all month and orders are down. :D

The Perf INIT page should populate as well with a FMS upload

Report that. Weird!

Not true, if this is the case send another e-mail to flt ops. I update winds prior to track and track exit and every time I update they are different.

If it wasn't again send a response
Yep, international flights are filed with ICAO flight plans
FL and mach changes are o the HOWGOZIT at given waypoints

Flight plan and HOWGOZIT are on PF clipboard which is to be located on aft pedestal near the printer. Easy access for all three or four pilots. We all work off the same sheets of paper. It may be a little different, but there were instances where two pilots were looking at different information.

I feel for ya. Post what is confusing or wrong and maybe some of us nobs can point you in the correct direction!

I haven't thought about negotiating a % of the revenue from a code share, but how else do you handle code shares?