scambo1

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Its about lookback, and Whitlow only applies domestically. If we applied NWA interpretation you are mentioning - the reserve being on duty rules- at DAL, we would have an instant need for 20-25% more reserves... sounds like a hiring reason - I think we should do it.

Really there are a couple reserve things that really chap me:
1. 24hr s/c for intl versus 12 for domestic - in effect twice the duty.

2. in the 777 there really is only about a 9-10 hour window where they need shortcalls in atl. In JFK theres about a 10 minute window. In DTW theres a small window too. It would be nice if shortcall lengths were tailored to the operation rather than "no I wont release you, you still have 20 hours left in s/c.

3.On the upside, domestic narrowbody folks can get brutalized on reserve, Long haul, that doent happen.

Scoop

Guys,

Check out this analysis of Frequent Flyer programs, I can just see DAL management saying "Thank God for USAIR!" kind of like Alabama is always saying "Thank God for Mississippi" when they come out 49th in education studies (Just kidding guys - I live in SOCAL were English is optional.)

Anyway, what should passengers expect - If they can't get on a DAL flight when they pay $$$$ for a ticket (overbooking) can they honestly be surprised when they can't get on a flight with Delta bucks.

Some of these people act like they just won the lottery when they are bought off of an oversold flight - I wonder how they would feel after reading this report.

OBTW I got this off the DALPA site:


IdeaWorks made 6,160 booking queries at the websites of 22 frequent flier programs during February and March 2010. Travel dates spanned June through October 2010; 10 long-haul routes and 10 city pairs under 2,500 miles were checked to assess reward seat availability.

Overall Reward Availability
Ranked High to Low – Seat Availability for June – October 2010
% Availability
Airline
Program Name
99.3%
Southwest
Rapid Rewards
98.6%
Air Berlin
topbonus
93.6%
Air Canada
Aeroplan
90.0%
Virgin Blue
Velocity
85.7%
Lufthansa/SWISS/Austrian
Miles & More
77.1%
Singapore Airlines
KrisFlyer
76.4%
Iberia
Iberia Plus
75.0%
Alaska Airlines
Mileage Plan
72.9%
Jet Airways
Jet Privilege
72.9%
Qantas Airways
Frequent Flyer
71.4%
Continental Airlines
OnePass
68.6%
United Airlines
Mileage Plus
67.9%
AirTran Airways
A+ Rewards
67.1%
Cathay Pacific
Asia Miles
65.0%
British Airways
Executive Club
64.3%
SAS Scandinavian
EuroBonus
57.9%
American Airlines
AAdvantage
56.4%
Air France/KLM
Flying Blue
36.4%
Emirates
Skywards
35.3%
Turkish Airlines
Miles&Smiles
12.9%
Delta Air Lines
SkyMiles
10.7%
US Airways
Dividend Miles
% of queries that result in outbound and return reward seats
See “Notes regarding query methodology” at the end of this press release.

vprMatrix

Domestically if you are on call for 19 hours you can't fly without a rest period due to look back rest, which is not the subject we were on but non the less the exact scenario you mention is a daily occurrence at Delta for international categories.

You can side with Super all you want to but this scenario as well as all the others I posted are perfectly legal (though some of my previous post is not contractual) As far as I know no one has pointed to an instance of the company doing anything that does not comply with the contract. I think Super said he would not accept an assignment to more that 6 days of RES without 24 hours off, if you are siding with Super on this you will be fighting the company without the support of ALPA or the FAA.

BTW, I don't personally agree with or like a lot about the FARs or the way Delta does both domestic and international res, but I assure you that there is not even a gray area here regarding legality.

-vpr

DViking

I can end all the 9 day reserve discussion. Just finished 9 straight days. Called by Skeds on day 5 at noon and put on rest for 24 hours. Asked why and he said I would not be useable for the last 3 days if they didn't give me rest.

acl65pilot

VPR;
You are correct. They need a 24 hr break. It can be in a hotel, assigned, or 24hr of notice prior to a trip which would happen if you were assigned a trip for tomorrow at 0800 lcl and it reported anytime after the assigned time.

The computer is set up to look at contractual and far requirements. Where they sometimes get in to trouble is when they are calling pilots for IA's and GS's. It does not check ones schedule it just calls in seniority or inverse order. They do not plug the trip in to your sked until they get a hold of you.

I have been out the door for a trip, when I get a call saying oops, we put it in your schedule and it is illegal for XXX reason.

satchip

I'm sweating this AE more than the others. The waiting is killing me.

Bucking Bar

Yeah, from looking at the bids for First Officers it appears the f-NWA bases are going to go very junior, even the great bases like SEA. I never thought I could hold the 767 in Seattle, but apparently it is there for the taking. What a good deal.

satchip

Your kidding, SEA junior? I really don't see that.

Gunfighter

Here is a guess.. "Gratis Passager", is French for Free Passenger.

Bucking Bar

Yeah. Just looking at the B side.

It is also looking like MD88A MSP is set to go very junior.

Atlanta's looking very, very, senior.