Here's an idea - why don't we let Pinnacle and TSA dispatch, maintain, staff the flight attendants, clean and service the 70/76 seaters, and then require those airlines to outsource the pilot jobs to Delta seniority list pilots. We could be on the good side of outsourcing for once.

We could have it be flying is first put out to bid by the pilots, then if not enough people want it, it's just assigned to new hires.

I'll take it. There should be no airplane too little for us to fly. But, on the other hand, there should be some things we refuse to do. Like wearing widget thongs. :D

DON'T BE AFRAID!!!

Just get in there and......

....well....

maybe a little afraid....

Also, I do not care who maintains the jet, and or holds the lean against their balance sheet. We can fly them and pay a service fee to TSH for dry leasing the jet. DAL wants is off their balance sheet, great, that does not preclude delta pilots from flying it.

Think outside the traditional box.

I will "sell" up tp 18 months to comply with the pwa for a one time raise (at least 5%).

Thanks for the thoughtful response. I see what you mean but do we have the capability to surge the 320 fleet to cover that flying? Aren't we stretched pretty thin already in that fleet. At least that is what I gather from guys posting here. As for the 9s, same story is it not? Besides what is the casm difference between the block 30s and 40s and the Ejet? ACL would know.

I would love to see mainline jets fly those routes and pax. I just don't think we have the ability to do it very short notice. As for us flying the 170, not a bad idea. We have pay rates published but the training costs would be a bundle and the time to spin us up.

I'm not advocating any position here, just trying to get some rational thinking going. Scope is a very emotional issue, for me as well as most every one here. Emotions as strong as that tend to cloud ones thinking. We need to let our leaders know what is unacceptable but trust them to do the right thing, for ourselves and the company, because our destinies are tied together.

Good idea, it's this kind of thinking we need to do and discuss. Free of emotion.

Yes it does...DAL doesn't want to pay the pay/benefits for DAL pilots...It's the new B-Scale and DAL won't let that go....it IS the traditional box.

Short of a strike (and that may not even stop it as NWAs 98 strike proved) DAL will continue to outsource the crews.:mad:

Led by the contract negotiator Giveaway err...I mean Dolloway

Its always easy to Monday morning quarterback.