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Scoop 07-19-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alfaromeo http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
Basically, you take 15% of the company's pre-tax profit (20% of the amount over $2.5 Billion) and put it in a pool. You then take your W-2 earnings and divide it by the total W-2 earnings of the entire work force and you get your share of the pool. For example a person that makes $50,000 that year would get half as much profit sharing as a person that makes $100,000. There is no decision to be made by the MEC it is all a math calculation.




Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 843275)
I am curious as to the logic behind this, other than it's in the PWA. If the theory behind profit sharing is that we all busted our hump to make the company money, then shouldn't the pot be shared equally? I'm just a 3rd-year FO, but I worked just as hard at a 30-year CA.

Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest. Just saying...


The system is set up for a "proportional" payment and I think its pretty fair. Suppose we split it evenly as you suggest and it amounted to 5k per pilot. A new hire who might make 15K this year would get profit-sharing equal to 33% of his income. A 2007 hire who say makes 80K would get a 6.25% payment and finally a 777 captain who makes 200k would get 2.5% payment.

Do you consider the above proposed payout more fair than a proportional payout? I for one, as a fairly junior guy (around 30%) do not.

Scoop

nwaf16dude 07-19-2010 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
I just saw a hot blond chick on b concourse that thought it was a good idea to show up for her flight in a bikini. I am not kidding. I was too dumbfounded to take a picture. She was wearing a nice see-through cover-up, though...so that makes it okay, I guess. Actually it's okay with me anyway since she was hot.

Just thought this was worth hitting quote on

Hey FTB, thanks...wouldn't want this important development to get over-shadowed by financial mumbo-jumbo. I absolutely could not believe it when I saw her walking down the concourse in a freakin' bikini! I really wish I was working the flight she got on..it would have been hilarious to listen to the cat ranchers *****in' about her.

KC10 FATboy 07-19-2010 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 843316)
Quote:
Originally Posted by nwaf16dude View Post
I just saw a hot blond chick on b concourse that thought it was a good idea to show up for her flight in a bikini. I am not kidding. I was too dumbfounded to take a picture. She was wearing a nice see-through cover-up, though...so that makes it okay, I guess. Actually it's okay with me anyway since she was hot.

Just thought this was worth hitting quote on

Hey FTB, thanks...wouldn't want this important development to get over-shadowed by financial mumbo-jumbo. I absolutely could not believe it when I saw her walking down the concourse in a freakin' bikini! I really wish I was working the flight she got on..it would have been hilarious to listen to the cat ranchers *****in' about her.

I don't care how stunned you were. You should have taken at least one picture, preferably from a high megapixel camera, zoom lens.

nwaf16dude 07-19-2010 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 843320)
I don't care how stunned you were. You should have taken at least one picture, preferably from a high megapixel camera, zoom lens.

...a valid point, and I apologize to all my APC brothers for my failure.

alfaromeo 07-19-2010 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by upndsky (Post 843275)
I am curious as to the logic behind this, other than it's in the PWA. If the theory behind profit sharing is that we all busted our hump to make the company money, then shouldn't the pot be shared equally? I'm just a 3rd-year FO, but I worked just as hard at a 30-year CA.

Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest. Just saying...

I am sure all the other employees would like a per capita distribution also. It would cut your check substantially though. As it is now, it works out to a flat percentage increase in compensation, just like a temporary one year pay raise. One could argue that a ramp rat works much harder than I do too, but his paycheck is a little lighter. I think we could start a whole other forum talking about compensation structures and I am not sure we would ever solve that.

Carl Spackler 07-19-2010 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by nwaf16dude (Post 843324)
...a valid point, and I apologize to all my APC brothers for my failure.

OK...but don't let it happen again. Now for your punishment, you are hereby sentenced to re-read posts from sailingfun.


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 843094)
I would take the time to read the SLI transcripts. Start with page 1218 which has Stevens testimony. Here is a summary posted before.

///In reading the transcripts of Dave Stevens testimony, isn't it obvious now that we can put to bed one nasty episode in this whole merger soap opera. It seems pretty clear that, contrary to the official communications of the Northwest MEC, the Delta MEC tried repeatedly to get the Northwest pilots to engage in negotiations during LOA 19. They also tried to get the original deal for the Northwest pilots, only to be rebuffed by Delta management. Finally, once the Northwest MEC determined they were being left behind, they tried to scuttle the Delta deal.///

In addition DALPA's use of LOA 19 was exactly in accordance to what was stated at the time it was signed. It was not used as a few NWA pilots screamed it would be on this forum. To their credit several of those pilots later retracted their claims and admitted that DALPA followed through exactly as they said they would and did not attempt to use the agreement as leverage in the SLI.

One last point, LOA 19 was based on the joint contract negotiated by both sides and then not put into place because a agreement could not be reached on the SLI. There was a significant NWA participation on most aspects.

Don't make me have to do this again.

Carl

80ktsClamp 07-19-2010 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 843331)
OK...but don't let it happen again. Now for your punishment, you are hereby sentenced to re-read posts from sailingfun.



Don't make me have to do this again.

Carl


That was cruel and unusual.

newKnow 07-19-2010 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 843349)
That was cruel and unusual.

But, he brought in on himself.

I saw a hot, half naked chick, but I can't show you and I don't have pictures, is worse than whispering to the person sitting next to you at the diner table. :D

buzzpat 07-19-2010 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 843349)
That was cruel and unusual.

The water boardings will continue until morale improves!:D

scambo1 07-19-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 843354)
The water boardings will continue until morale improves!:D

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I got screwed in the...

Oh screw it.


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