I'm on the same page. I'm sure the way NWA used to do some things would be very useful to us all and I hope they get implemented if they're the best practice. I sure know that Delta does a lot of strange things (having a whole bunch of different manuals is one of those). I don't understand the "two release" thing, though. At my previous airline, we only had one release which we put in the middle console where both pilots could access it. Delta does the same. If I want to look at the release and flight plan, I just grab it and look. Sounds easy enough to me!

That being said... if we do adopt the "two release" fNWA method... I can manage! :)

Not true..... I have removed or carried hundreds of strollers/bags up to folks in the jetway.

If that is not the case then why do they chew your royally is you touch one?

One release works, however there are over 4500 Delta pilots that are certain that two 6 inch strips of paper are better, more convenient than one. It all ends up in the trash sooner or later.

Airline tech always seems to lag behind the times. The Dot Matrix printer is a great example. My printer at home spits out at 45ppm and I paid less than $250 for it. I can't tell you how many times I've had to delay a flight while waiting on the paperwork.

He's talking about most of the information that comes on the second release, down to where the fuel planning information is. We used to call it the release.

To answer your question though, yes!

Depending on the length of the flight, I would say that I look at the release and the information I put on it somewhere between 20-30 times a flight (from the preflight checklist to shutdown).

New K Now


Oh and they should print up a nice little flight attendant briefing form for us to use, too. :)

So which is it? You've carried hundreds of bags and strollers to the jetway, or the fNWA pilots have recieved numerous memos about "pay slipping"? I'm so confused.

Jughead;
Maybe they let em carry them and then fill out the slip for the pay. All I know is when we first stated doing these cross-fleet flights I was in DTW and was going to grab a stroller after the pre-flight and was told rather forcefully that flight crew do not tough anything on the ramp.

Of course, we chit chatted about it, and he just told me that was, the way it was in DTW. Could have been him, but I am not the only person this has happened to.

If it is false and we can do this sort of thing without getting in to it, great, I am all for helping those parents out that have to gate check those things.

Yes, as a matter of fact, we did. They however continued to _itch and whine.

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