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acl65pilot 06-20-2010 07:39 AM

Every flight I have flown the last two weeks has had a CI of at least 62. If you take off late the dispatcher will give you a speed up message via acars. When there is an IROP in a hub they will send you a slow down message, of give you a destination gate hold. It is great to see this type of forward thinking.

Our passengers do not care if you take an extra 20 minutes enroute but sitting on the ground waiting for a gate makes then quite irritated.

RoughLandings 06-20-2010 07:47 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 829318)
Somebody calculated it and its worth posting, what would it cost to build the Death Star? It is 17.16 quadrillion cubic meters and will require 1.71 quadrillion cubic meters of steel, about 134 quadrillion tonnes, all of it shipped into space. Then add air, shipped into space, and so on, and you get a total of:

$15,602,022,489,829,821,422,840,226.94.

Yes, that’s a whooping 1.4 trillion times the current US Debt.

Now, how much does Delta have in debt?!? That ain't nothing.

Tonights worthless factoid is brought to you by 80ktsclamp. Thanks for crunching those numbers and keep reaching for the stars buddy!

FTB, Continental is keeping the dream alive by painting the Death Star's likeness on its tail. Maybe with United's help, they'll realize that dream yet!

iceman49 06-20-2010 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 829521)
Every flight I have flown the last two weeks has had a CI of at least 62. If you take off late the dispatcher will give you a speed up message via acars. When there is an IROP in a hub they will send you a slow down message, of give you a destination gate hold. It is great to see this type of forward thinking.

Our passengers do not care if you take an extra 20 minutes enroute but sitting on the ground waiting for a gate makes then quite irritated.

Agreed, they also do not like sitting at the gate waiting for push. ATL and NYC need to be off loaded, we need a different way and timing of getting the numbers...when we get the numbers you do not need 5 and 6 choices. D-0 drives everything, for the dispatcher to give you a speed up means nothing if the hub is conjested...depending on the airport, a 35-45 min domestic connect time is unrealistic and causes more problems the further you get into the day.

acl65pilot 06-20-2010 08:06 AM

What are you talking about?

I normally see three derates and then a full power option. If there are other issues like clutter you will see that depending on what fleet you are in. It takes 30 seconds to input and if you are on a augmented crew, the two FO's should do the data, and the CA verifies it. It works real slick for the RP to read the data off and the FO input it.

iceman49 06-20-2010 08:17 AM

There is no need to have numerous options, just put in a big enough pad from the runway allowable weight and go from there. Keep the interpretation to a minimum and drop the math problems.

Waves 06-20-2010 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by Reroute (Post 829506)
You enter an employee number of some value, whatever you like, for takeoff. By doing so you allow flight operations engineering to distinguish between an actual normal power takeoff by the crew and an ACARS pre-programmed default. Why just typing in a value under "T/O PWR" doesn't do that I do not know, but that's the explanation given in section SP 5-31 of the 76/75 volume 1.

Thanks Reroute. The TO power setting which is recorded in the logbook is what maintenance logs for engine TBO. All engine parameters including starting temps records are continuously transmitted to maintenance/engineering. A friend of mine before they could shut it down, had a 757 engine on start go above max EGT. They immediately called maintenance and the tech said, "let me look at that. Yeah you went 587 degrees for 2 seconds. It'll be fine to go." Not that anyone would continue, but keep that in mind if you ever have an overtemp or whatever on one of the jets that doesn't red flag it. Even if it's one degree over, someone will probably be inquiring about it at some point.

forgot to bid 06-20-2010 08:33 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 829521)
Every flight I have flown the last two weeks has had a CI of at least 62. If you take off late the dispatcher will give you a speed up message via acars. When there is an IROP in a hub they will send you a slow down message, of give you a destination gate hold. It is great to see this type of forward thinking.

Our passengers do not care if you take an extra 20 minutes enroute but sitting on the ground waiting for a gate makes then quite irritated.

Agreed, on the 88 all of the CI's have been much higher than the 20 we were using before but on the 88 its only been 55 or so. Until the way back from GCM and we had a CI of 0 for an ETA of 1650. I thought there must be a reason so we stuck with it, cruising at Mach .73-.74, until the CI of 55 in the descent, but of course no sooner had I hit 55 then I got speed limited to 250. On the downwind leg to 26R I could see a 767 on our gate in E. By the time we landed the 767 was off the gate and we strolled in, 3 minutes late.

So take it for what its worth. If you see 0, there is a reason and the international terminal at ATL is packed as is.

forgot to bid 06-20-2010 08:39 AM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 829546)
Thanks Reroute. The TO power setting which is recorded in the logbook is what maintenance logs for engine TBO. All engine parameters including starting temps records are continuously transmitted to maintenance/engineering. A friend of mine before they could shut it down, had a 757 engine on start go above max EGT. They immediately called maintenance and the tech said, "let me look at that. Yeah you went 587 degrees for 2 seconds. It'll be fine to go." Not that anyone would continue, but keep that in mind if you ever have an overtemp or whatever on one of the jets that doesn't red flag it. Even if it's one degree over, someone will probably be inquiring about it at some point.

I wonder if the 88 has that because if you have an over temp then they don't want you to shut it down until a mechanic can get in there and pull up the temps. If you shut down I guess it clears the memory and suppoesdly the QRH once referenced that but not any more. Or not since I had an overtemp on takeoff last year out of ELP.

Waves 06-20-2010 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 829554)
I wonder if the 88 has that because if you have an over temp then they don't want you to shut it down until a mechanic can get in there and pull up the temps. If you shut down I guess it clears the memory and suppoesdly the QRH once referenced that but not any more. Or not since I had an overtemp on takeoff last year out of ELP.

I flew the 88 and 90 for five years, but I can't remember for sure. I remember on the 90 the crew brought in ship 9016 on one of those 108 degree days here in SLC, and they were having temp problems. It seemed to me that the temps were stored but I wouldn't swear to it. There was a small button and you had to use a pen or sharp object to either reset it or display the recorded temps. I think those little buttons were right below the temp gauges. I actually have all the maintenance manuals including the Lambs diagrams and FMS book for the aircraft, but they are currently in storage. They include everything you didn't want to know about the aircraft. Friends in maintenance.

Carl Spackler 06-20-2010 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by satchip (Post 829479)
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Not my wife but a pretty good facsimile.

I can't post any actual pictures of the women cuz I was with my wife for Pete's sake.

That's all right satchip. Just wait til Forgot to Bid gets done photoshopin her!

Carl


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