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I'm sure it's a function of they heard what they wanted to hear, but this is what we got at NWA after 9/11. Pre 9/11 some flight attendants used to come up and say hi or even take a break and chat for a bit. After 9/11, inflight mandated that they stay out of the cockpit (unless needed for bathroom breaks) which I think most of them took as "don't bug them at all". Remember, the unfriendly and the pilot haters go back to the back galley anyway:D.

I agree with who ever said that the FAs came up when asked, which has been my experience. Plus when I come out to use the biffy and say hi, the blockers are always friendly and not the least bothered that we needed to come out.

I haven't flown with a south FA crew, so I can't say one way or the other. But, maybe we are both looking for something to be wrong?

Ferd

I've flown with several North FA crews, and all I can say, from my perspective, they were a lot friendlier and engaging than some of the South crews I've been saddled with. They were domestic, so I can't comment on any international cat raNCHERS YET.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 829597)

When I get my meal on a plate instead of the tinfoil... and get asked ONE SINGLE TIME on a 8+ hour flight if there is anything we need... drinks... sandbox break... ANYTHING... I'll put in their numbers. Until then.. not my problem.

Oh mighty leftseatedness.....they are not there to wait on you. Need something? Pick up the interphone and ask!

And not your problem? Gimme a break. Due to the limited IT of DAL, they require the pilots to put their employee number in so that they can get paid what they rate, and you say not my problem?

Let me guess....you're on your second wife?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 829564)

hmmmm... what to do...
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Uh, I don't think I want to get the popcorn for this but it seems like everything affects US. airlines:

Egypt allowed at least one Israeli and 11 American warships to pass through the Suez Canal as an Iranian flotilla approaches Gaza. Egypt closed the canal to protect the ships with thousands of soldiers, according to the British-based Arabic language newspaper Al Quds al-Arabi.

Everytime I went through the Suez, the Rag Heads would always shoot at the carrier. You could hear the bullets ping off the side. In the Red sea, the cockpits would get to 160 degrees. Oh, those were the days.

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Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 829597)

Ain't that the truth T!

So future AE question here / pay protection....

A) If you were awarded M88 B ATL on the current AE ( I was) and training is not gonna happen till December, can I bid up to something else in the meantime if the next AE comes out before then (like ATL 73N?? or higher) would they let me?

B) If a new hire gets trained before do I get pay protected to their higher position pay??

Thanks in advance to whoever knows:)

Geeze,

Come on youze guys........what ever happened to "out nice" someone to change behavior..........

Just say'en,
Ferd

PS Like I said, I haven't flown with a south FA crew yet so I can't compare, but the majority of FAs I fly with care and work hard. Maybe they are nervous about you guys too?

I've got a White Slip question. If you pick up a rotation via a WS that takes you to 29:30 within 7 days, is that legal per the PWA? From what I'm reading in Section 23 P. 7. f., this would be a valid pickup because there's a 30 minute buffer. I just want to make sure I'm reading it correctly. Secondly, if I exceed the FAR 30 in a 7 because of delays due to weather, ATC, etc. and they remove the WS rotation, am I still pay protected?

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Originally Posted by TheWagman (Post 829638)

I don't think you can bid on a subsequent AE if you were awarded a position requiring a freeze. Your 2 year freeze in the 88 begins the date of the award, in your case May 19. As far as the newhire, I don't know.

bid what you want, want what you bid

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Originally Posted by NERD (Post 829617)

Just flew with my 1st DS FAs on the short bus. Guess what? Service,attitude and age was about what I am used to:( Lets face it a large portion of our FAs (for that matter, AA, Ual, Lcc etc) do more to drive customers away than pleasing them. That goes for the surly agents and poor underwing service. I am not saying all but enough just don't care. Until this is fixed(which it won't) we will never be a world class airline. We cannot hold a candle the Asian and Middle East carriers. My guess is not even the Western European.

Lets face it - Legacy FA's as a group do not stack up favorably against LCC FA's. I realize that there are many outstanding legacy FA's out there, but on average, they are much older, much more surly (mostly with good reason) and far less enthusiastic then the younger FA's. Most Legacy FA's have taken huge benefit hits in BK, have had more responsibility dumped on them etc. LCC Fa's have generally not had to deal with much of this.

So here we are in a service industry, and a good deal of our front line employees who interact with our customers are not very happy - is it any wonder our survey ratings are in the dumps. We can make PAs until we turn blue, we can fly a stellar flight with a smooth touchdown etc but if the FAs do not interact positively with the customers it aint gonna matter.

Oh and we are not even in the same league as some of the international carriers who are not barred from discrimination in hring. "Why yes, we are hiring, says AnyAsia airline - are you female, single, smoking hot, bi-lingual with a sunny disposition and under 30?" If not don't bother applying.

Scoop