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You so funny. They do read it! :eek:

I just want them to start construction. I figured the announcement would happen after the runway opened.

On the crew rest thing. You are correct. Do what works, but make sure the to crew is the ldg crew. If you want that to change petition it.

You guys want to get on to a new topic? Go look at that other web board and read the regional rumor about Mesaba. (A great way to change subjects)

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 834321)

You so funny. They do read it! :eek:

Yeah, I remember someone posted something about how the app page had something about our "over 400 aircraft." (vs. the 700+ we now had with the merger.) The next day, the page was changed.

On another note, anybody know what the body count is up to from the interviews? I heard (ACL say) 5 got through. Any further info?

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Originally Posted by jiminmem (Post 834235)

I always loved the look of the L1011 and have to add that I prefer that livery over the current.

Totally agree. Always loved that livery the most.

Carl

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Originally Posted by DAL73n (Post 834294)

Seconded - there are a lot of things that are briefed in training, OE, on a particular rotation, that sound like procedure when they are actually techniques. It is up to YOU (and I believe most of us are highly experience pilots) how you want to fly your airplane. There is only one PIC on every aircraft (even the 4 man crews) and he has the authority to run the flight however he wants as long as he doesn't violate FARs, written company policy or flight manual restrictions. I believe one of the big differences culturally between Delta and NWA were NWA seemed to have lot more procedures telling you exactly how to do things on your airplane while Delta gives the crews (both Cpt and F/O) a little more latitude. If it's not against any of the above Carl (and all the other unhappy fNWA captains) should be able to run their cockpit however they want. As an F/O, I've flown with Captains that do some things a little different and it is my job to run the airplane how he wants - as long as he's within the rules.

There in lies the problem. When you sat in a NWA jet in the right seat you knew exactly what the guy in the left seat expected and you did exactly the same thing in the right seat every flight, no guessing what is this guy going to do and expect. As well you knew exactly what the guy in the left was going to do. This allowed immediate recognition of a guy that might be out to lunch and then you knew you had to be on your toes if that was the case. Just saying how it used to be not that it is better than DAL because I can not judge how you guys run things until I exerience flying with enough guys to make a judgement.

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 834325)

You guys want to get on to a new topic? Go look at that other web board and read the regional rumor about Mesaba. (A great way to change subjects)

Any thoughts?

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 834274)

Not hypothetical but actual. But if the rest period is in the middle of 7 days on day 3 and you yellow slip or gs that day 3 and they need you does the ys and gs trump rest? Because even if you fly a 4 day you're legal as long as you don't work day 7, right? Or does rest supersede and cancel any ys or gs automatically?

OK. I get it now.
Excellent question. Gotta admit, that's a new one for me.
Might wanna run it by Geordi Leforge, but here's my sea lawyer answer. Unofficial of course:

Scheduling has to follow the open time award sequence contained in the contract. It says open time WILL be covered under Sections 23.N and 23.O. There is no exception for pilots on assigned rest.
23.M.7 says they can deviate from that only to "maintain schedule integrity". But if they do that, then the guy who was supposed to get the trip is pay protected.

Bottom line -
If you are legal for the trip, you get it. So yes, the yellow or green would trump the assigned rest.
If it were otherwise, then skeds could easily violate seniority in the trip awards by just assigning "rest" to one guy and giving the nice greenie to the next guy.

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Originally Posted by keenster (Post 834337)

Yes, this is a universal complaint from the previously NWA colleagues I've had the pleasure of yanking gear for. I can say, however, that the way it's been done at fDAL is the way I've seen it at the other airlines I've worked at. That is, the guy doesn't look at you funny because you made the noises for him before the pax loaded or started a QA on the inertials to get the box going. I know both jobs, and I can tell what's been done or simply ask. I don't think I'd like things so regimented that there's no flexibility- that's what leads to the "this is your side of the panel, so don't cross the line" crap or our older captains getting fatter and fatter because the book says the FO does the walk-around, so why would I ever do it? The recognition of a guy out to lunch should happen anyway- that's just basic SA. You either have a big SA window or you don't.

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What's all this "crew rest" talk? Isn't that when you hang out in BDL or FLL for 4 hours between flights?:D

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Originally Posted by shiznit (Post 834373)

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What's all this "crew rest" talk? Isn't that when you hang out in BDL or FLL for 4 hours between flights?:D

For maddog drivers, crew rest is when you sit down in the seat after walking from A3 to B32 for the third time that day. :D