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Originally Posted by buzzpat
(Post 786193)
I heard the same thing from DAL N FA's on my last pass through MSP. Lots of beeyatching going on in that hotel van. :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Waves
(Post 786190)
I just spoke with my DAL FA wife. Rumor in the FA lounge is that DAL N FA's are suing DAL to block DAL S FA’s from flying DAL N equipment. DAL is suing them back so they can be finally integrated. Anyone have anything on this issue?
The AFA has a scope clause that states that the FAs MUST fly any aircraft that are operated by NWA pilots. From what I understand, to get what they want, they would pretty much have to unwind the pilot integration. Of course the company response is likely "um, there aren't any NWA pilots anymore, so...'kay? It is an actual grievance, and it has been fast tracked for arbitration in April. The AFA is playing the waiting game on the new RLA regs. If I were a betting man, if they get the new card rules, they will probably win. As for the MD-80 mods, I don't doubt it. I thought I heard something to the effect that they annouced a program to do an aerodynamic cleanup program on the DC-9-50s, including a whole host of things such as flap/slat/control surface seals, wing root fairings...the works. Sort of a LoPresti Speed Mod for DC-9s. If so, then they are planning on them being around a while. Shame about the -30s/-40s. Maybe when SWA buys AirTran and parts them out, the 717s will get a new home at DAL. Ahhh, the irony in that.... Nu |
Originally Posted by n9810f
(Post 786194)
I'm not sure 'suing' is the right word, maybe it is - but, yes, AFA has at least filed a grievance against DAL. My understanding is a little different than what you've heard (not saying I'm right)...AFA is suing to prevent NWA FA's from flying with DAL pilots. AFA claims its contract does not allow any FA's to fly on aircraft not operated by NWA pilots. Delta's response is there is no NWA anymore so the argument is moot.
Look...AFA will file a grievance over what the moon is made of... This is correct. Unfortunately, it is a day late and a nickel short. Every pilot they fly with is a DAL pilot... we are fully integrated- except on the whale and 777. |
Originally Posted by Chente
(Post 786196)
I dont like how FA's can have a potentially huge impact on our careers. I'm not very eloquent, but what I'm trying to say is that MOST FA's are uneducated and basically raised their hand to get a job "flying" for Delta.....yet they can have a huge impact on our careers. Just sayin
But I was counciled "that's how things are done at DAL" Nu |
Originally Posted by Chente
(Post 786196)
I dont like how FA's can have a potentially huge impact on our careers. I'm not very eloquent, but what I'm trying to say is that MOST FA's are uneducated and basically raised their hand to get a job "flying" for Delta.....yet they can have a huge impact on our careers. Just sayin
That reminded me of the story we've all heard. "Flight attendant training is 4 weeks and pilot training is 5 weeks? Wow, I should stay one more week so I can be a pilot!!! |
Originally Posted by Waves
(Post 786195)
I think it is a bad policy as a lot of your reverse thrust available is behind you. .
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 786198)
This is correct. Unfortunately, it is a day late and a nickel short. Every pilot they fly with is a DAL pilot... we are fully integrated- except on the whale and 777.
Well, funny thing about arbitrations... Nu |
Originally Posted by hoserpilot
(Post 786201)
That reminded me of the story we've all heard. "Flight attendant training is 4 weeks and pilot training is 5 weeks? Wow, I should stay one more week so I can be a pilot!!!
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Originally Posted by n9810f
(Post 786194)
I'm not sure 'suing' is the right word, maybe it is - but, yes, AFA has at least filed a grievance against DAL. My understanding is a little different than what you've heard (not saying I'm right)...AFA is suing to prevent NWA FA's from flying with DAL pilots. AFA claims its contract does not allow any FA's to fly on aircraft not operated by NWA pilots. Delta's response is there is no NWA anymore so the argument is moot.
Look...AFA will file a grievance over what the moon is made of... |
Originally Posted by Chente
(Post 786196)
I dont like how FA's can have a potentially huge impact on our careers. I'm not very eloquent, but what I'm trying to say is that MOST FA's are uneducated and basically raised their hand to get a job "flying" for Delta.....yet they can have a huge impact on our careers. Just sayin
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