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Chente 03-29-2010 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 786246)
I agree. That's why I only said you were wrong in part. Most of the traveling public make the false assumption that all pilots and all airlines are created equal. Most pilots including many DAL pilots also make a similar false assumption that all FA's are created equal. They aren't.

I gotcha:)

Chente 03-29-2010 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by Scoop (Post 786260)
I understand your angst on the issue, but statistically speaking, you are worried about the wrong group. Management, through greed, stupidity, arrogance, incompetence, ego, inability to adapt, and just plain old incompetence has brought down far more once high flying airlines than flight attendants.

Scoop - Still keeping my fingers crossed on this management team.:rolleyes:

PS - And if the flight attendants were to bring down DAL it would only be possible via management incompetence.

Yeah I hear ya man. I want to make it clear though that I'm not angry at anybody. I was just trying to make a point about FA's. But I agree with you, management is where we need to look to, to make things "right".

80ktsClamp 03-29-2010 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by Waves (Post 786285)
Yeah, they've been talking about fixing the 757/767 fuel pump issue since around 1997 or 98. Did they ever get those changes made? At least they finally got the heater blankets put on the MD fleet. You guys remember the mandatory pole check?


Still havent done them. Now that we merged with NWA and they have the mod, they are "talking more strongly" about it, haha.

I never had to do a pole check but had to learn how since I qual'd initially on the 88. That's gotta be the most ghetto procedure I've ever heard at an airline!

NuGuy 03-29-2010 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 786311)
Still havent done them. Now that we merged with NWA and they have the mod, they are "talking more strongly" about it, haha.

I never had to do a pole check but had to learn how since I qual'd initially on the 88. That's gotta be the most ghetto procedure I've ever heard at an airline!

LOL...

It took us MONTHS on the north side to figure out what the heck you guys were doing fiddling with the 757 APU bleed values. Off, unless your doing this, then it's on, unless it's in icing, except on alternate tuesdays during a leap year....

The answer, which they could have told us up front, is that the DAL 757 APU bleeds don't have the "smart" mod, which basically turns them off automatically if there is another bleed source available. Thus the northside procedure was to leave them on all the time.

Of course, we started the right engine first so we could get the ac/heat going sooner, but hey, that falls into the realm of "captain's discretion" now, I guess.

As for the DC-9 "pole", we had yet another solution...we trained the rampers to do it. Call into ops for an "upper wing inspection", and he/she'd come up and say "all clear", and that was done.

As for the center tank pump mod...sheesh, that's been done 5 years now. You guys musta been hiding the plans for that in the 8" floppy disk box that holds the program for DBMS.

Nu

Waves 03-29-2010 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 786311)
Still havent done them. Now that we merged with NWA and they have the mod, they are "talking more strongly" about it, haha.

I never had to do a pole check but had to learn how since I qual'd initially on the 88. That's gotta be the most ghetto procedure I've ever heard at an airline!

Yeah, I remember doing them as an FO on the 88 hoping no one was watching this unusual procedure. After we got the heater blankets several years later, I don't remember ever having to do them again. We had finally turned into a REAL airplane. Well, it's been a pleasure, but I must get up early to study for my IA recurrent tests. It's an FAA mechanic thing. Later everybody. I still liked the cat thing. Ha HA

Waves 03-29-2010 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by NuGuy (Post 786320)
LOL...

It took us MONTHS on the north side to figure out what the heck you guys were doing fiddling with the 757 APU bleed values. Off, unless your doing this, then it's on, unless it's in icing, except on alternate tuesdays during a leap year....

The answer, which they could have told us up front, is that the DAL 757 APU bleeds don't have the "smart" mod, which basically turns them off automatically if there is another bleed source available. Thus the northside procedure was to leave them on all the time.

Of course, we started the right engine first so we could get the ac/heat going sooner, but hey, that falls into the realm of "captain's discretion" now, I guess.

As for the DC-9 "pole", we had yet another solution...we trained the rampers to do it. Call into ops for an "upper wing inspection", and he/she'd come up and say "all clear", and that was done.

As for the center tank pump mod...sheesh, that's been done 5 years now. You guys musta been hiding the plans for that in the 8" floppy disk box that holds the program for DBMS.

Nu

OK, one more before I leave. We sometimes had the rampers do it, but most of the time it was just easier and faster to do it ourselves.

As far as my 757 comments, sorry but I haven't flown that aircraft for about 11 years, so sort of out of the loop on it.

dragon 03-29-2010 07:56 PM

Topic seems to be FAs not flying with anyone but NWA pilots. If that is true and if it is also true that we don't have any NWA pilots doesn't that result in FAs(cat ranchers) who can't fly. Therefore we are severely under"manned" in the FA department and we should immediately hire hot young FAs?!!!!

I nominate Super to handle the selection process with strong emphasis on underboob!

tomgoodman 03-29-2010 07:57 PM

Why the 2x3 to 3x2 seat swap
 

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 786259)
Question for those of you who've been here a while. Why do our MD-88s have a 3x2 configuration rather than the 3x2 in the DC9s, MD90s and everywhere else?

When we got the first MD-82/-88s, the Douglas instructor told us the aisle had to be "shifted" so it wouldn't be blocked by the large rear galley Delta had purchased. He pointed out that the F/O would have to crawl under a seat to use the gear-inspection periscope. :rolleyes:

dragon 03-29-2010 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by tomgoodman (Post 786334)
When we got the first MD-82/-88s, the Douglas instructor told us the aisle had to be "shifted" so it wouldn't be blocked by the large rear galley Delta had purchased. He pointed out that the F/O would have to crawl under a seat to use the gear-inspection periscope. :rolleyes:

In training they mentioned the galley was the reason and then linked it to one of the previous CEOs who had to have some sort of signature thing to hang his hat on - personally I would love to have that signature thing be profitability but I guess I'm just crazy that way.

Superpilot92 03-29-2010 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 786332)
Topic seems to be FAs not flying with anyone but NWA pilots. If that is true and if it is also true that we don't have any NWA pilots doesn't that result in FAs(cat ranchers) who can't fly. Therefore we are severely under"manned" in the FA department and we should immediately hire hot young FAs?!!!!

I nominate Super to handle the selection process with strong emphasis on underboob!

I gotcha covered ;) :D


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