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Old 09-02-2010 | 02:15 PM
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Nosmo:

Please include me. (No Dissemination, of course.)

Thanks.
Old 09-02-2010 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
Not in my cockpit. I don't get paid enough to willfully violate company policy for THEIR convenience. I get paid by the minute. They want me to stop to put the numbers in, I'll stop, regardless of where I might be or how long it takes to get 'er done.

The first time someone has a runway incursion, or nicks a wingtip on something, if you think DAL will give the WINK, WINK because you were inputing FMS data on the roll, you're kidding yourself.
I'm in 100% agreement. If the policy is to stop and set the parking brake while we put in the numbers, then we do it that way. I'm not risking my career for company convenience either.

I think the FO could safely enter the numbers while the Capt is taxiing, but not without a policy change.
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Delta1067
Does anybody know when the next AE will be published?
When the mimeograph machine gets fixed.

That's for you Carl...
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:16 PM
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Next AE should be posted tomorrow and it is POSITIVE bid. Happy bidding. ya'll. I believe we will like what we see.
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tomgoodman
Taxi-out must be a lot smoother these days. We used to wait in line for ramp exit long enough to plug "War and Peace" into the FMS.
Tom.. these kids have no idea what you are talking about now... with the data downlinked flightplans and oceanic clearances via ACARS... AND CPDLC on the 7ER... it's more of a short story than a novel.

Kids these days...
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I know a better fix to this rube goldberg abomination of our procedures tryin to do what fNW procedures did extremely efficiently:

Block out time is when all the doors have closed on the plane. The beacon and the parking brake have no bearing.

Tada! D0 problems fixed, no flashing beacons long after we've parked, and we can do our numbers at the gate the way the current checklist design is optimum.
That's OK... but I would like to see PAY time start at sign in...
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's OK... but I would like to see PAY time start at sign in...

Amen. The current pay structure was acceptable when the pay/benefits and pension were at pre-BK levels.
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
That's OK... but I would like to see PAY time start at sign in...

Pay should be sign in to sign out, minus layover time. This would allow us to make more money with a lower hourly pay-rate and we would be on the clock during sits.

I can dream, can't I?

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Old 09-02-2010 | 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Sounds like Council 1 did a good job with this, as did the MEC in general.

Carl

OK who is this??? How did you get Carl's password and more importantly what did you do with Carl??????????????????? Carl if you're out there, we're coming for you, hang on!!!!
Old 09-02-2010 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
so i had a Captain who had his own procedure, knowing this was coming, and that was to push thrn get the numbers. Suggested not to but he is the Captain. So we push. No numbers. Called. No numbers. Called. No numbers. Called. You're overweight, we've got to unload 40 of 80 bags from previojs nights cxld flight.

That said, the current system is not working in many instances and Im fine with new procedures but I'm also concerned the numbers will take a long time still.

The flight should be closed out earlier...shouldn't have overweight problems not with the tech available today.
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