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RockyBoy 02-05-2009 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 553217)
Of course, but it is always good to read it too. I have learned a few good things in there as well.
Make sure you mark down that you want a paper version of the JPWA that way you can have it in your flt kit. That is what I do. I get the electronic version for DALPA.

Just told them I wanted the paper version. I never seem to read anything that is a pdf file so I'm glad they will be getting us the old file type to read.

forgot to bid 02-05-2009 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 553202)
No read the JPWA. It now includes all of the FNWA folks that were hired to Sept of 2001. In essence it means that a lot of new hires are slotted in with these guys meaning that after SOC they would need to furlough FNWA guys to get to a bunch of FDAL guys. I think there are about 400 on the bottom of the list that do not have a 2001 or earlier hire below them.
That means that unless you are on the bottom the scope seat trigger will in theory protect you a little more after SOC.
Now our union could vote that away, but from what I am hearing that is not in their plans at all.

FWIW, the last FNWA pre 9/11 pilot is 11938 under the combined list. Basically the split at DAL is in the Jan 7 2008 class and Jan 21 2008 class.

We have 12416 pilots so thats 478 pilots from the bottom to that number.

georgetg 02-05-2009 09:11 PM

Delta Digest Winter 2008/2009
Page 13 (I kid you not ;-)

SOC between Jan 2010 and July 2010

That's "in print" FWIW

Cheers
George

Superpilot92 02-05-2009 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 553249)
FWIW, the last FNWA pre 9/11 pilot is 11938 under the combined list. Basically the split at DAL is in the Jan 7 2008 class and Jan 21 2008 class.

We have 12416 pilots so thats 478 pilots from the bottom to that number.

I think his point is that furloughs pre-soc is much worse for the DAL side because it gives DAL the ability to furlough more pilots before hitting the pre-911 hires. Post SOC the company can only furlough half as many as pre-soc before hitting the mark. Hopefully its a non-issue though.

capncrunch 02-06-2009 12:46 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 553217)
Of course, but it is always good to read it too. I have learned a few good things in there as well.
Make sure you mark down that you want a paper version of the JPWA that way you can have it in your flt kit. That is what I do. I get the electronic version for DALPA.


Where do I mark it down that I want a paper copy?

capncrunch 02-06-2009 02:28 AM

Nevermind, I just got the survey email. I like the CD option.

DeadHead 02-06-2009 02:32 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 553296)
Nevermind, I just got the survey email. I like the CD option.

I got the Audio Tape version narrated by James Earl Jones.

BalloonChaser 02-06-2009 02:40 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 550126)
I'm glad someone is positive about the economy. But, we just had more jobless claims this past month than ever before in history (since they started tracking these statistics). The impact of those jobs being lossed won't be felt for a while. We can't even think about a recovery until the number of jobless rates slows, if not reverses.

We've had 20+ years of spending and no saving or paying off debt in this country and its time to pay the bill. I hope I'm wrong, but I think it will e 5-10 years before we get back on our feet.

-Fatty


Until you see

DAL buddy of mine sent me this link - I skimmed through this once already but need to read it again to help it gel - interesting...
"Turning Japanese - The Audacity of Reality" by James Quinn. FSO Editorial 01/28/2009
Enjoy...:cool:

forgot to bid 02-06-2009 04:27 AM


Originally Posted by BalloonChaser (Post 553300)
DAL buddy of mine sent me this link - I skimmed through this once already but need to read it again to help it gel - interesting...
"Turning Japanese - The Audacity of Reality" by James Quinn. FSO Editorial 01/28/2009
Enjoy...:cool:

Hence the concern about furloughs not just in 2009, but if we survive then 2010, or what about inflation kicking in in 2011 or 2012 like many are predicting? Will we survive that? Its a good article.

acl65pilot 02-06-2009 04:27 AM

Also at the meeting this week of the Managers for the entire system they stated the new target date was a year from now.

You, are correct that there have been some issues. Last time I talked to anyone about it, it was early Jan. It appears that SOC has slipped, due to IT issues. What a surprise here at DAL.


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