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For the past few years the executives at AMR have been talking about requiring a 10% operating margin at a minimum to retain and attract new investment capital. This is what I believe the entire should be targeting.

10% would be great, but to do that operating costs, (employees) would need to be kept extremely low. If we started seeing these types of margins with labor costs going up, the LLC's would find a way to once again repeat the cycle that made them so successful the last decade.

forgot to bid

09-08-2010 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 867417)

Hence the need for "merger synergies", right? What was it, $600M just because we merged? Wasn't that what the analyst were looking most forward to with us in that investor call for Q1 or Q2?

Check Essential

09-08-2010 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 867407)

One of the last trips I know of was flown by the #1 CA & #1 FO in MSP. The trip not including DHs was 3 or 4 legs. I believe it was a 10 day worth 68 hours.

Sounds like the good old days when we had the PanAm 727 base in Frankfurt.
12 day trips worth 80 hours. Young gorgeous Polish flight attendants.
Deadhead over and back in 1st class on the L-1011.

So senior the flight engineers could all hold captain.

Chente

09-08-2010 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ronnie75 (Post 867215)

Not sure what "gaming it" means. What is the point of long call. Seriously.

Are you serious???? The "point" of long call is to have some sort of quality of life and not be on a 2 hour call out for the 18 days that you are on reserve for the month. If you don't like it you should request SC every day you're on call and bypass the contract so that us that actually care about QOL can sit long call. Seriously.

Sink r8

09-08-2010 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 867420)

Sounds like the good old days when we had the PanAm 727 base in Frankfurt.
12 day trips worth 80 hours. Young gorgeous Polish flight attendants.
Deadhead over and back in 1st class on the L-1011.

So senior the flight engineers could all hold captain.

They were going for the Lobster Newburgh and hand-tossed salads, right?

Check Essential

09-08-2010 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 867426)

They were going for the Lobster Newburgh and hand-tossed salads, right?

Of course.
But it was more about the French wine and 25 year old single malt scotch.

That 1st class on the trans-Atlantic Tri-Stars was awesome.

Bill Lumberg

09-08-2010 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 867250)

I totally agree.

DAL is making a ton of money on cargo with this bird.

I assume the question of whether we get the 748i or more 744's is really up to Skyteam and their decision to have us fly more point to point and the other to let the international carriers fly the big metal on hub to hub, or to let us have some of the hub to hub too.

The rumored price of the JAL 744 pax birds is right around 250K per month. If anyone know a/c leases, they will realize that if there is any truth to that price, it is really too good of a deal to pass up.

That was close to what Delta was paying for each MD88 per month prior to Bankruptcy. (250K)

Carl Spackler

09-08-2010 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 867245)

The 748i is 20% more efficient to operate than the 744.

The 744 is the second only to the 753 in CASM here at DAL.

Do you mean second lowest in CASM or second highest in CASM?

Nosmo King

09-08-2010 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 867250)

My guess is if the decision were up to our VP Cargo, we would get a bunch at that price. The other cost question is, how much will we have to spend to modify the cabin and cockpit to DL standards. The good news is that JAL almost always ordered the same options as NW up until they got MD-911s and 777s so they should have the same engines. Another thing to research is that some of the JAL 744s were "domestic." They had no winglets and about 500 seats for flying between Tokyo and Osaka. I got to deadhead on that cattle car a few times. Weird fact: IIRC the fuel penalty for a missing winglet on a 744 is ... zero.

Nosmo King

09-08-2010 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler (Post 867443)

Do you mean second lowest in CASM or second highest in CASM?

Has to be lowest. 753 has been lowest CASM since it got on the property (both NW and DL).

If there were 753 on the used market, DL would probably stumble over its own feet in a rush trying to grab them.

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