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RunFast 09-15-2010 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 871184)
http://www.neutronproperties.com/images/IMG_0329.JPG

The resort has a 2,000' grass strip, but that's all NewK needs for landing a DC-9...

Ahh, the Tennis Ranch in N.B., TX...

DAL73n 09-16-2010 12:17 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 871010)
Bill it means nothing of the sort. Either way someone more senior to you is going to the left seat of something. If you are one of the pilots that is right below one of these guys, well they have the seniority to do this.

If you did the cost benefit analysis of being a senior ER FO or a junior M88/DC9A you would realize that many are making the better financial and personal choice by staying senior on the right seat.

Seniority is everything.
I know that when I am in that position, I will not willingly give up Christmas and the other holidays to be junior in the left seat just to make at best a few thousand dollars more a year. Seniority allows that choice.
Juniority sucks but there are ways to have a QOL no matter what you seat or seniority is.

I will second that - especially if you're a commuter (and Let's not start the commute by choice discussion). Even a junior lineholder has a lot more control over his schedule than a senior reserve guy. There are many a month I have been one of the last (or the LAST lineholder) and managed to fix my schedule thru drops and swaps to end up with a decent month. I fully expect (unless there is a ton of hiring) that I will probably be a career FO at Delta - nothing wrong with that. I want to continue to enjoy my career and not look like 70 at 55 and 80 at 65 (still recovering from furlough).

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 870748)
I don't see why you feel this is wrong. The two NWA bases on the 757 did some international flying. They were flying both transoceanic and the Narita flying. The transition agreement was that they would be 7ER bases. Had they been brought over as 767 bases they would not have been allowed to fly trips they had flown pre merger. That was the proper way to handle those bases.


I think my logic was pretty obvious. I disagree with yours. It's a moot point anyway... I just don't think it was right. The reason I think it was concession is because prior to the merger, fNWA did not have any 7ERs. After the merger, not only did they get them, their categories were effectively protected from pillaging from the other side. Like I said, the issue is moot, I just think Frog had a valid point. It's not worth arguing any further.

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:05 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 870753)
I figured some may actually go pull the TFA and read it. It was all defined in there when we agreed to the PWA. After all we agreed to the JPWA and the TFA many moons ago. It was determined that the 755 would convert to the 7ER after SOC. It did.

I am sure the company would love to just convert all of the domestic guys to the 7ER on their timetable without a rebid. It is cheaper and they could slowly trickle them though training and TOE. The PWA sets forth the procedures and bidding requirements to reduce flying and close flying in any category. Ergo, the reason we have to have a surplus and entitlement bid on every seat that transitions to the 7ER from the 767. The same would hold true if they ever combined the 765 to the 7ER unless there was a LOA signed.

If we signed a LOA half of the group would scream bloody murder that it was a concession. So see the fact that there are two rocks and the MEC is stuck between them with this issue.

I understand the "logic". I just don't happen to agree with it after I sat down and thought about it. Like I say to sailingfun. Frog had a valid point. I don't need your interpretation of the deal. I just think it was wrong. EOD

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by TOGA LK (Post 870822)
How about a monthly bid with a 60-day conversion window? How about block and reserve being separate categories with full MD rights? If we are going to fix the system, no point in going forward 40 years when we can go the full monty.

As to separate block and reserve... uh no, but thank you anyway. And what's the tripe about going forward 40 years mean? Your definition of going forward doesn't necessarily jibe with mine, but you ARE entitled to your opinion.

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:13 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 871059)
Looks like Bill Maher might have me on. THAT should be interesting.:eek:

ooooooh fun.. wear an asbestos suit though... keep us posted.

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:15 AM


Originally Posted by carl spackler (Post 871100)
you're a better man than i buzz, cause i couldn't do it. If there is anyone that has a bigger "punch me" face than maher, i don't know who that would be.

Carl

Pelosi????

tsquare 09-16-2010 01:18 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 871196)
how about old whats his face that used to be on ESPN? Or the fat kid on the same network?

Try THIS one :) YouTube - Jim "Chris" Everett confronts Jim Rome

Flamer 09-16-2010 03:43 AM

Thanks for the response on the 5 hour call out question. I forgot about that. But the bigger point was no one in the cat had a green slip in and was legal? Scheds have a lot of info they use to do their job, and all I can see is a reserve avail list that really means nothing? Why can't I see some of the same stuff they are looking at? We are all just following the contract right? Same for the AEs. Nothing to see except one set of numbers. Just seems like the less info you have, it just ends up easier to keep you in the dark. I would just like some of that info. It's already out there. Don't cost nothin. Some smart cartoon guys saying knowing is half the battle.

dalad 09-16-2010 04:07 AM


Originally Posted by reddog25 (Post 871113)
In base G/S comes before out of base W/S

Wrong! Out of base white slips come BEFORE in base green slips. I do them all the time to avoid commuting to JFK.


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