To be awarded a green slip while on a reserve day (long call and less than 12 hours to report), is that a GS or a GSWC? TIA!

No GSWC's on Reserve. You get paid the block time for that day above guarantee with no PB day. If it is just a 1-day you get the credit. If its more than a one day you don't get the credit unless the trip ends on a day off.

Am I missing something here? Just put Sunday - Wednesday in your GS template. They will not award you a GS outside of your requested dates.

If you want to be selective about accepting a GS within your parameters, just let it go to voicemail and check your message ASAP and decide if you want it.

If its within the days you are requesting a GS - it is not a proffer, but they can't force a GS on you outside of your request - that is a whole different animal that goes by the name of inverse assignment.:eek:

Scoop

That is GS #1 for the month and you go to the back of the list. Think long and hard before accepting one of these especially if it flies over all your on call days. You can burn your GS #1 for a measly few hours of GS pay and then sit back and watch guys way junior to you pick up 3 and 4 day Greenies on your off days. :eek: Ask me how I know this.

On the other hand if its late in the month and you only have on call days left it might be worth it.

Scoop

I misunderstood... thought it generated a PB day too, even on a Res day.

Good to know! Not many GS in my category at the moment... unlikely to get one at all unless an IROP hits.

If I start a 3-day GS on my last Res day of a string and fly into two X days, though, it's all straight above guarantee...and I either get 2 PB days or two Res days that month dropped, right?

Yes, it’s all above guarantee. Two payback days will be added on your next to oncall days for the month. Depending on what time of the day you return, you might get a partial payback(PR) day. If you no longer have any on call days left for in the month to roll the PB days into, they go into your PB day bank which can be viewed at the bottom of your time card.

Be very vigilant about making sure Scheduling places the PB days on your schedule or in your bank. Do NOT let Scheduling place them in the following month. (They tried to do this to me earlier this year) They can be very valuable if in your PB day bank.

As a side note, a PB day can be moved just like an Xday using the same “Leave Request” template you use to move Xdays. The only exception is if you have a PR day at the end, it won’t do it.

Denny

A GS is always a proffer if it is less than 12 hours to report. But the safe bet is to let it go to voicemail. You can view the rotation in icrew without acknowledging while scheduling is leaving the message. If you like the trip, you can acknowledge it via icrew without ever speaking to a scheduler.

The only risk with this approach is if the trip is less than 3 hours to report they don’t have to put it on your line or give you 10 minutes to mull it over. They just leave the message and call the next person in line.


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I don't believe anything states a GS is a proffer under 12 hours. That said I just answer the phone, if I can't get there I tell them and they move on. Never once have I had any pushback. Usually they are happy you answered so they don't have to wait 10 minutes.

Didn't we have this GS discussion a few months ago?

A same day WS or a next day WS with < 12 hours notification are both proffers. The scheduling reference handbooks specifically says that a GS is NOT a proffer. If you answer, it's your, except for the usual caveats (alcohol, childcare, out of place).

So are they going to release the As and Bs at the same time?

WHat makes you say that?
I haven’t seen that before. Then again, I’ve only been here a couple years

A green slip is NOT a proffer. If you answer the phone, it is yours. Obviously excluding reasons like alcohol etc.

This is covered in the scheduling handbook.

Why? It's still relatively early in the window for bid awards. Especially true considering the amount of coverage (unstacking) that's probably going on, due to the holidays. I expect the As today or tomorrow and the Bs 24-36 hours after that, but wouldn't be surprised if they go all the way to the 17th.

...So what I'm taking away from this "NOT a proffer" discussion is that if you don't want said GS, you tell the scheduler you just had a beer and it goes away.

Kinda like a....proffer?

Yeah, but I would also be real careful about that as well. The 2 things will get you fired are lying and stealing. I am not saying they are going to investigate a GS rejection, but if it is 11 hours till report and it is currently 9am, it could look a little funny.

I'll never forget the guy who said he had "child care issues" when called for an IA, and then the scheduler looked it up and found out he didn't have kids 😙 (No joke) He ended up having a conversation with the CP.

If you're having a beer at 9AM, you might need to talk to someone.

Don't judge me...Don't put that evil on me Vincent Chase!

Unless you are on a sailboat in the Caribbean and then it is ok ⛵️😄

You’re all correct! Sorry for the bad info. I must’ve seen the WS and IA language and incorrectly associated it to GS. Never answer the phone!


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Even though I think Mimosas are gross, do they count too?

Fakenews.

Another reason to never answer the phone unless you’re on SC. Ever.

Don't really have to answer on short call either. I like to poop without my phone, and I'm not going to rush that process to answer a phone call.

I'm with GogglesPisano. Heck, when I'm on SC I'll answer a call from CS on the crapper. I'll do them the courtesy of not going on speaker :). Maybe if I put them on speaker they'd call me less.

Does talking to CS when they call with a GS award count as "talking to someone?" :D

TMI dude TMI......

Denny

What on earth do you do, then?? My highest scores at angry birds have been set during the download!

Voicemail works in every situation. 15 minutes to finish up your business is the standard.

:eek:.......:mad:.......:D

Crew Scheduling must think all we do is drink, crap, and take showers.

What a great job!

And require child care. Always a strong standby.

No kidding. Most of us drink bloody mary's when we wake up. It's just weird to drink beer before breakfast.

Does an injury on short or long call count as OJI?

I don’t think so but am curious

From the sounds of it, we have some guys sprinting to answer their phones on short call. That's gotta cause an OJI or two on occasion.

Sprinting to answer the phone? :confused: Hey grandpa, it's for you. The cord won't reach from the kitchen so grab your walker and sprint on over here. Oh, and change the dial and move the foil on the rabbit ears on your way. ;)

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Good point. Most folks are welded to their phones these days. I try not to be. If I lived two hours from the airport, I guess I'd feel more pressure to answer on the first ring. I'm pretty close, so I have the luxury of taking a voice mail or two. My kids get a kick out of being the priority over a ringing phone...I know they won't return the favor as teens (I know - teen phones don't ring) but the more I can hold over their heads later, the better.

Y'all do still charge your phones with a cord plugged in to a wall, right?

Phones? :p

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Looking like I'll be getting a 5 day dropped for OE. Can I white slip over that trip once it's dropped to boost my credit?

Or greenslip and boost your pay...times two plus the value of your original trip.

Or just non-rev to NCE for those 5 days and get paid for f@#$ing off in the south France. 😁

White slip, green slip or go to Kathmandu for spiritual enlightenment. It's your choice. Keep in mind your pickup up limit will include the dropped trip so you may not have much room to whiteslip. You will have a lot of available block time so a GS might be probable if your category is at all short.