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If that's the case then why are guys bidding out of the super premium bases????????
Take the large population centers near the corners of the country... Those are going to generate more interest. There is pent up demand for those areas, especially if they were former bases for one or the other airline. As it turns out, except ATL, they all were former bases for the opposite airline.
You could just about bank on NYC/LAX/SEA/ATL going more senior, and sure enough it's happening.
So what?
You could just about bank on NYC/LAX/SEA/ATL going more senior, and sure enough it's happening.
So what?
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perhaps just seeking an upgrade in the not so "super premium" bases.
All kidding aside, quite a few positions have been moved out of the ATL base since SOC, they'll probably migrate back if ATL picks up 330s and 747s.
OK, Carl, just for you, some facts. Every time an AE comes out, I take the projected category list and "stovepipe" that list for each base. Then I see where I would sit, if I were to bid that base, and every pilot was stovepiped. That gives a true, unbiased look at the relative seniority of the base, at my seniority level. For example, in June-09 I could hold 7ER Captain in NYC on a stovepiped list, but only 73N Captain in ATL, and only 330 F/O in SEA.
So, what does it look like on the category list resulting from the most recent LOA as compared to June-09?
I've moved down in relative position in ATL, CVG, LAX, and NYC. And I've moved up in relative position in DTW, MEM, MSP, SEA and SLC.
I'm not complaining. Just pointing out facts.
So, what does it look like on the category list resulting from the most recent LOA as compared to June-09?
I've moved down in relative position in ATL, CVG, LAX, and NYC. And I've moved up in relative position in DTW, MEM, MSP, SEA and SLC.
I'm not complaining. Just pointing out facts.
Boy, jumping all over a guy. DET is a Detroit, MI airport which is closer to downtown Detroit than DTW and that actually used to have airline service from Southwest and ProAir...
AirNav: KDET - Coleman A. Young Municipal Airport
AirNav: KDET - Coleman A. Young Municipal Airport
We lost alot of our team last year and its going to take a year or 2 to get experience level back up. We've got talent but they're not clicking as a team yet. The Texas Tech game was ugly too but they managed to pull it out.
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Exactly, so what, but it does make interesting conversation expecially when the large migration to the super premimum one and only mecca southern base did not happen. Yes there have been a few trickle ins but no mass migration. Take this bid for example, 68% of DTW7ER Capt fDAL vs32% fNWA, 100% fDAL of ATL7ER Capt and 80%fDAL ATL767 capt vs 20% fNWA ATL767 capt. Just interesting facts not meant to be directed at one side or the other. Recall rights may have influenced these numbers but I am not smart enough to figure that one out.
What we haven't seen yet, is Atlanta shaking itself loose. Once big planes really start moving around, I'm not sure what will happen. A lot of the potential for disruption is still in front of us.
One interesting point about the Southeast, which could be a mitigating factor. Atlanta isn't like LA, New York, or Seattle in terms of density, and driving distances. A lot of guys live in Florida, not GA. I suppose you could say that it's the same for guys living in New England commuting to New York: you still have to fly. But still, I think there may be more fNWA guys living close to a LA airport, or fDAL near SEA, to make those more attractive to cross-polination. Just speculation here, of course.
I think the bottom line is that we will gradually look more and more like what Pineapple was talking about: a more "stovepipe"-like system.
Again, it was all expected. Some aspects aren't great, but I didn't want to be "protected" with fences. This is a by-product of the SLI method I supported... so it is what it is.
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