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acl65pilot 12-07-2009 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 722501)
Reminded me of the old question: Do you know what they call the guy that graduates at the bottom of his medical school class? A: Doctor.

The small print states, not licensed buy the AMA, or the Texas board of Medical Certification..... :eek:

LeineLodge 12-07-2009 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722485)
The issue with a GS, YS on reserve is unless it is on your first day of reserve you do not have the required look back rest requirements to fly the trip.

Good point, that hadn't even crossed my mind.

tsquare 12-07-2009 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722516)
I know what trip you are getting next month Tsquare. Check that 12 day trip......

Yeah.. the one on the 28th.. I saw that. Over Superbowl Sunday no less. One word. Ewwwwwwww

deltabound 12-07-2009 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 722501)
Reminded me of the old question: Do you know what they call the guy that graduates at the bottom of his medical school class? A: Doctor.


That reminds me of a joke about proctologists:

When they go to medical school, they start at the bottom . . . and stay there.

DFW Refugee 12-07-2009 12:52 PM

Also just to get you going, there is a surprise on this AE.[/quote]


Like 'All' not 'Some' on big jets?

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 722531)
Also just to get you going, there is a surprise on this AE.


Like 'All' not 'Some' on big jets?[/QUOTE]

Hugh? Not sure what you are saying.

Surprise as in something they have not announced, as they are still debating pulling the trigger on it.

firstmob 12-07-2009 12:55 PM

Just how BIG is this Guam rumor?

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 01:02 PM

It is "Big" ;)

Big as in how junior would that go........

(even my wife told me he!! no!)

tsquare 12-07-2009 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by firstmob (Post 722534)
Just how BIG is this Guam rumor?

Since it is a rumor.. it is as big as you want it to be. :D

DFW Refugee 12-07-2009 01:22 PM

Surprise as in something they have not announced, as they are still debating pulling the trigger on it.


Rumor I heard awhile back was ALL 777s and ALL 765s to JFK. That would REALLY cause some movement, hence the debate you mentioned. :eek:

80ktsClamp 12-07-2009 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 722544)
Surprise as in something they have not announced, as they are still debating pulling the trigger on it.


Rumor I heard awhile back was ALL 777s and ALL 765s to JFK. That would REALLY cause some movement, hence the debate you mentioned. :eek:

I can't imagine all 777's going to NYC... too many departures out of ATL and DTW for that to happen.

DFW Refugee 12-07-2009 01:43 PM

I can't imagine all 777's going to NYC... too many departures out of ATL and DTW for that to happen.

You're right...It should have read '...ALL 777s to DTW...' Anyhow, that's the rumor I heard, for what little any rumor is worth, Right? :)

80ktsClamp 12-07-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by DFW Refugee (Post 722559)
I can't imagine all 777's going to NYC... too many departures out of ATL and DTW for that to happen.

You're right...It should have read '...ALL 777s to DTW...' Anyhow, that's the rumor I heard, for what little any rumor is worth, Right? :)


While we're at it, I heard we're opening a base in Easter Island with 777LR's and will be serving the entire southern hemisphere from there.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 01:45 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 722551)
I can't imagine all 777's going to NYC... too many departures out of ATL and DTW for that to happen.

I agree, no way no how. 777 still does a lot of flts out of ATL. It will continue to as well.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 722561)
While we're at it, I heard we're opening a base in Easter Island with 777LR's and will be serving the entire southern hemisphere from there.

Silly, it is SAL that we will be doing that in once we take the 757's out of Asia and move them to that theater! :rolleyes:

80ktsClamp 12-07-2009 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722563)
Silly, it is SAL that we will be doing that in once we take the 757's out of Asia and move them to that theater! :rolleyes:

I was serious. A lead mechanic who heard it from his boss who plays golf with RA told me so. :)

1234 12-07-2009 01:58 PM

320 pilots will soon be getting this email:

Due to an error in the A-320 bid packages for January, the bid window for all A-320 categories (DTW, MEM and MSP) has been extended and will now close at 1700E on December 14th. If you submitted a bid earlier than 1700E on December 7th please ensure you download the updated bid package and resubmit your bids for January schedules. The award deadline for your January schedules will still be no later than 1800E on December 17th.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by 1234 (Post 722568)
320 pilots will soon be getting this email:

Due to an error in the A-320 bid packages for January, the bid window for all A-320 categories (DTW, MEM and MSP) has been extended and will now close at 1700E on December 14th. If you submitted a bid earlier than 1700E on December 7th please ensure you download the updated bid package and resubmit your bids for January schedules. The award deadline for your January schedules will still be no later than 1800E on December 17th.

Nice.

At least they told you. Better hope you have a e-mail in dbms.

Superpilot92 12-07-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722538)
It is "Big" ;)

Big as in how junior would that go........

(even my wife told me he!! no!)

at least we'll have long call for commuters........:eek:

johnso29 12-07-2009 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 722575)
at least we'll have long call for commuters........:eek:

Maybe ACL or Buzz will buy a house and start a crashpad for us. ;) :p

80ktsClamp 12-07-2009 02:24 PM

CFO just implied that we will not be seeing the 787 in DAL colors....

Delta fleet stabilisation plan throws more doubt on 787 order

DATE:07/12/09 (note that's european formate for dec 7, 2009)
SOURCE:Flight International


Delta fleet stabilisation plan throws more doubt on 787 order
By Lori Ranson
Delta Air Lines will invest in upgrades of its current fleet rather than ordering new aircraft, ahead of the delivery of four remaining orders in the first half of next year. The revelation throws further doubt on the airline's inherited order for Boeing 787s.

Speaking during a presentation at the Morgan Stanley Transportation Conference in Washington DC, the US carrier's chief financial officer, Hank Halter, said that after the merger of Delta with Northwest Airlines last year, the carrier had a combined operating fleet of almost 1,400 aircraft, including mainline and regional aircraft.

The carrier holds combined orders for 52 aircraft, including 25 Boeing 737-800s and two 777-200LRs, as well as seven A319/A320s and 18 787-8s ordered by Northwest before the merger. Halter says Delta's focus for the time being is making investments in its current fleet in areas such as audio/video on demand, Wi-Fi connectivity and lie-flat seats on its widebodies.

"We believe we can do that at a much more economical cost than re-fleeting an entire section of our aircraft," says Halter, who adds that, after the four deliveries planned for next year, "we don't have anything else".

This strategy to keep the fleet constant for the foreseeable future re-emphasises the uncertainty about the inherited Northwest 787 order. The airline was among the launch customers for the twinjet, and had originally secured early delivery slots. In a regulatory filing last year, Delta did not include the 18 787s in its firm order schedule running to 2012.

In the past, Delta executives have said the combined company has Boeing 777s that offset requirements for the 787, and during the carrier's 2008 investor day, chief executive Richard Anderson said the carrier did not have the capital allocated to the 787 in its three-year plan.

Halter acknowledges Delta will eventually need to supplement its fleet, "but for right now, our fleet of 1,400 aircraft clearly meet the needs of our network".

iaflyer 12-07-2009 02:35 PM

Hm - kinda throws some cold water on the rumor here on APC of the 52 unnamed Airbus orders being Delta.

Also, this article made me think that Delta is trying to get it's debt under control. A order for new aircraft doesn't help that.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 722599)
Hm - kinda throws some cold water on the rumor here on APC of the 52 unnamed Airbus orders being Delta.

Also, this article made me think that Delta is trying to get it's debt under control. A order for new aircraft doesn't help that.

remember that only used or canceled orders could be taken right now. If we want jets in two plus years they need to be announced shortly.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 722584)
Maybe ACL or Buzz will buy a house and start a crashpad for us. ;) :p

Maybe.....

You will clean for my wife right? ;)

deltabound 12-07-2009 03:03 PM

For my money, the newest ACL hinted at rumor is referring to is pilot-hiring at DAL. I think it's imminent.

While I wouldn't claim to have a tenth of the rumor-plugin capacity as ACL (honestly, who would? :) ), I've heard some rumblings in this direction from non-internet based sources.

Seems counter intuitive, what with the recession and DC-9 retirements and all. But hey, I just fly the things, not plan grand global strategy.

acl65pilot 12-07-2009 03:10 PM


Originally Posted by deltabound (Post 722620)
For my money, the newest ACL hinted at rumor is referring to is pilot-hiring at DAL. I think it's imminent.

While I wouldn't claim to have a tenth of the rumor-plugin capacity as ACL (honestly, who would? :) ), I've heard some rumblings in this direction.

Seems counter intuitive, what with the recession and DC-9 retirements and all. But hey, I just fly the things, not plan grand global strategy.

We will hire someday and sooner than we are planning on furloughing.

If they punch that button to do that, they are biting a huge piece of the apple off. That added with all of the other training would be a ton to do prior to May. We need everything but the DC-9 displacements done prior to Summer.

johnso29 12-07-2009 03:57 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722601)
Maybe.....

You will clean for my wife right? ;)

Do I get a discount on the pad? :p

johnso29 12-07-2009 05:11 PM

Anybody here with an iphone use the Skype app? If I call another iphone with the Skype app which has a separate Skype account is it free?

Skype experts feel free to chime in. Thanks :)

iaflyer 12-07-2009 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 722709)
Anybody here with an iphone use the Skype app? If I call another iphone with the Skype app which has a separate Skype account is it free?

Skype experts feel free to chime in. Thanks :)

That sounds right - Skype only charges when you call a phone number. Computer to computer is free, I can't see why an iPhone would be different.

Justdoinmyjob 12-07-2009 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by iaflyer (Post 722714)
That sounds right - Skype only charges when you call a phone number. Computer to computer is free, I can't see why an iPhone would be different.


Isn't there an app called true phone for iphone to iphone?

iaflyer 12-07-2009 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 722726)
Isn't there an app called true phone for iphone to iphone?

Truphone is just like Skype - you could either call computer to computer, or deposit money and call landlines/cell phones with it.

flyover 12-07-2009 06:26 PM

20,000 Posts on this thread!
 
So I say we start a contest to whoever makes the 20,000th post on this thread wins a prize. What say You?:D

80ktsClamp 12-07-2009 06:27 PM

I'll bet a small pomeranian dog that ACL makes it. :)

flyover 12-07-2009 06:35 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 722753)
I'll bet a small pomeranian dog that ACL makes it. :)

I bet a Longhorn loss that it is Super-Pilot.

forgot to bid 12-07-2009 07:22 PM

20,000 posts - 19,715 posts = 285 posts.

285 posts x every 30 seconds = in roughly 2 1/2 hours I will make the 20,000 post. It will take some work and lots of gibberish but usually I work hard to make posts that turn out to be nothing but gibberish so I think I can do it.

-OR-

ACL can tell us the new rumor and I bet you we can hit 3,000 pages and 20,000 posts by morning.

Denny Crane 12-07-2009 07:40 PM

The sad thing is (to me anyway:D) we are on page 1972 and it sounds like most of you were not even a gleem in your daddy's eye then!!!:D

DennyCrane!

newKnow 12-07-2009 07:46 PM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 722790)
The sad thing is (to me anyway:D) we are on page 1972 and it sounds like most of you were not even a gleem in your daddy's eye then!!!:D

DennyCrane!

I think one guy (Delta Pilot) on another thread said he was born in 1983. His daddy might not have even been in high school in 1972! :eek:

forgot to bid 12-07-2009 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 722480)
Also, if I put in for a GS and am willing to accept a trip less than 12 hours while on long call, is the trip a proffer or am I bound to take it?

Reason I ask is that most times during the day I could make checkin much less than 12 hours, but for a few hours in the evening, I'd need the full 12 to make it. I thought about limiting the hours they could call me, and the time to report via the preference qualifiers, but this could unnecessarily limit a GS if it came up mid-morning.

Anyone have any firsthand experience with this?


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 722485)
The issue with a GS, YS on reserve is unless it is on your first day of reserve you do not have the required look back rest requirements to fly the trip.

Leine or anyone who cares that I am writing gibberish, I went looking for those new Get to Know Your Contract bulletins that had some of these questions on it in lamen terms.

I found it, if you login to DALPA and in the search box put CA Bulletin 09-12 it'll come up. Click on the disk and it'll open the 1100 page PDF which includes the bulletins and the whole contract and some other documents. So its nice because if the bulletin says "Refer to Section 23:Q" it'll take you to the actual contract. Just don't hit print at home or in the crewroom. :mad:

Its a good document.

As to proffers for reserve pilots (cut and pasted from that CA 09-12 & Contract):

A reserve pilot who is proffered/awarded a yellow slip for a rotation with a report that is:
a. 12 hours or less from first attempted contact may decline such award (this is a proffer).
b. more than 12 hours from first attempted contact is obligated to fly the rotation (this is not a proffer).

Inverse assignment of a long call reserve pilot within 12 hours of report will be by proffer.

Today, when submitting a yellow slip to lower your RAW score by 15 points, you are doing so on a universal basis, not simply for specific rotations or dates. At the same time, you are also indicating that you wish to accept a trip with less than 12 hours’ notice to report (this is a proffer)
and that you wish to fly above the ALV. Your reserve preference qualifiers are only considered if your RAW value is such that you will be assigned flying, and then only if there is more than one trip available to you.

Section 23 O 16: Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to contact (by proffer, in category, in inverse seniority order)

23 O 18: Long call reserve pilots whose rotation would report within 12 hours of initial attempt to contact and whose X-day(s) would be interrupted (by proffer, in category, in inverse seniority order)


forgot to bid 12-07-2009 07:51 PM

There is someone lurking on this thread born in 83... oh wait... 81? Couldn't have been 83 for this particular Conquistaqdor of the Seniority List. If I do the math in my head right.

Ferd149 12-07-2009 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 722352)
Its not a give up attitude. NW did not have 1 for 3.5. Therefore they can build 5 day domestic trips without lots of credit or bumping up against FAR Limits. Personally I don't want 5 day trips so hope nothing changes but you wont see them often with 1 for 3.5 in the contract. Do the math on a 5 day reporting at 11 am on day 1 and getting back at 7 pm day 5 and it will come clear to you what the companies issues would be.

Sorry for jumping in late with this if someone already said it (I'm catching up)

We did have that rig prebankruptcy. The trips we're talking about would not leave at 11am, they would leave at 1500 to 1700 so one can commute in with backups. Also, they release a lot earlier than 7pm so once again you can commute home.

I guess all we are saying is look at some north patters/rotations/pairings or what ever we call them today and see what we are talking about. Delta does NOT have the perfect answer to everything.

Rant over.........

Ferd <--------over transitioned, out of good humor and that feeling of adventure


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