And there is some very interesting case law Re: Landrum Griffith on just that as it pertains to comments about union officials by union members that occurred at NWA several years back. Short version is as a ALPA member you can say just about anything you want about an elected official or officer regardless of the above criteria. If it is from a union member about a union officiol, regarding union business or conduct not even sure if it is even open to civil litigation.

Don't take my word for it - call Legal at National.

Delta CEO to meet Maehara over JAL
 

While we're waiting for ACL, I found this.

Delta CEO to meet Maehara over JAL Japan Today: Japan News and Discussion

TOKYO —
Delta Air Lines Inc Chief Executive Officer Richard Anderson will meet with Japanese transport minister Seiji Maehara on Wednesday over the U.S. carrier’s financial rescue proposal for struggling Japan Airlines Corp., ministry sources said Tuesday. Anderson is likely to seek Maehara’s understanding regarding its $1.02 billion (about 90 billion yen) package for JAL during the meeting at the Ministry of Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism, they said.

Senior officials of American Airlines Inc, which has also offered aid of up to $1.1 billion (about 97 billion yen) for JAL, are also scheduled to meet with Maehara next week for a similar purpose, the officials said.

The world’s two biggest airlines have recently intensified their efforts to secure a partnership with JAL as they seek to access lucrative Asian routes operated by Japan’s largest carrier in view of the anticipated conclusion of an open skies accord between Japan and the United States.

Anderson is expected to explain to Maehara that Delta could seek additional funds to beef up the amount it has offered if JAL joins the SkyTeam group of carriers led by the U.S. carrier and that the group could contribute to enhancing air routes linking Japan with the U.S. and European cities.

JAL currently belongs to the oneworld grouping led by American Airlines.

American Airlines has said that if JAL moves to SkyTeam, it would boost the SkyTeam’s share of Japan-U.S. routes and would constitute an antitrust problem. American Airlines’ officials are likely to stress this aspect to Maehara when they meet with him next week.

Lets hear the bad news....too much suspense around here:confused:

There is freedom of speech ... and then there is breaking the law. A very fine line in terms of slander and libel. Expressing the views of someone is much different than accusing someone of breaking the law. If you pubically accuse someone of breaking the law and you either have no proof or willingly stated/printed such information, I believe you are still in violation of slander / libel laws.

Here is the Landrum Griffith Act of 1959 ...

Freedom of Speech and Assembly - Every member of any Labor organization shall have the right to meet and assemble freely with other members; and to express any views, arguments, or opinions; and to express at meetings of the Labor organization his views, upon candidates in an election of the Labor organization or upon any business properly before the meeting, subject to the organization's established and reasonable rules pertaining to the conduct of meetings: Provided, that nothing herein shall be construed to impair the right of a Labor organization to adopt and enforce reasonable rules as to the responsibility of every member toward the organization as an institution and to his refraining from conduct that would interfere with its performance of its legal or contractual obligations.

Hey ACL

If this Guam thing happens, are they gonna deadhead guys out for the rotations or actually expect people to live there? I could actually see it if the former were true...not so much with the latter.

Buzz

KC10 -

Yeah I know - it's the interpretations that matter - the "meet assemble and freely exchange views" has some interesting twist in the internet era.....not making this up. I have fairly intimate knowledge of this and was involved as it was playing out at NWA. Again, don't take my word for it.......

Since I'm young and no kids and stuff, I actualy was thinking about the GUM thing if I could hit an early 73N captain position.

18 hours in the air plus connect time and customs. Unless I'm positive spaced over there, no thanks.


As far as the sickening thing, I wouldn't consider it "sickening" as much as "agh, that's kinda gay." Don't worry, it's not the F word... but ATL is prob taking a hit on this one at the expense of getting the staffing more in line on the north side of things.

I did didn't I?

http://www.morethings.com/fan/saturd...ed_mcmahon.jpg

You are correct, sir!

No, no furloughs just some last minute developments on the AE. Actually a few. I want to make 100% certain that there are teeth to them. No sense in posting crap.
Suffice to say there are a lot of things going on that may change the way this AE is bid for and processed.

Amadeo Ribs - It's on Rue St Catherine 26, 1000 Bruxelles

IMHO, the ribs are overpriced for the quality.

Link to the map below.

Google Maps

We have to share rooms on layovers? :rolleyes: :D

I would not worry to much about it. There would be nothing we could do about anything that is going to happen either way.

I would do GUM for the experience. Why not. Two years in the left seat. Make a little cash then come back buy a little more land in Texas, create a bigger compound, and then sit in the right seat of the C-Series. Why not ;)

The answer is --- neither.
There's gonna be yet another Letter of Agreement.
Guam will be manned in a similar fashion to military "TAD".
If you are in the 737 category, you will be able to bid for a 60/90 day stint in Guam. Housing provided. Possibly spouses allowed. No kids. Pay, per diem and work rules yet to be determined.
You heard it here first.

If there's another LOA I might just go "Airline Pilot."
BD

The rumor of this Guam LOA might push us over 20,000 posts before midnight.
Spread the word. :D

Cute. Fact is that there is a lot in the works.

I want a good Christmas present. Tell everyone on the 4th floor to spread some Christmas cheer on this AE. I haven't been naughty, just nice, I didn't pout or cry, just hook me up with growth....at mainline. Should we all get together and spike their eggnog?

Dtw 7er
 

I believe I read on one of the TWG's that DTW/MSP will be converted to 7ER by Mar/Apr 2010.

In about two hours I am going to be VERY naughty;)!:cool:

I hear we're looking at expanding in STL in the near future to cover flying AA is shifting to ORD.

[quote=satchip;723303]In about two hours I am going to be VERY naughty!/quote]

Let me guess Satch... you're going to watch Fox News? But in 2 hours is Greta.

To each his own.

Could they consider the 765 in NYC, the 777 in DTW, and the 90/320 swap as "shifted flying" instead of new categories? If I remember right isn't that what they did with the 765 when the moved it to ATL? That would be huge in the way the bids are processed because then only MD's and VD's could go into those categories blocking anyone from bidding an AE into a new category.

Hmm. Let's see, one Christmas I got a 33 1/2 % pay cut followed by more the next. Then a few years later displaced (yea it was to an upgrade) and then follwed by a displacement to a downgrade.

Call me Ebenezer Scrooge.

Never heard of that. I don't think it can be done under the contract.

How about staffing GUM with the 16 JAL MD-90's?

You can't be a Scrooge with "Aloha" in your signature line. :)

Not sure we would want to do that on the 90, but I bet we see those jets. :D

Are they going to go to DTW? :rolleyes:

(Come on man, give me something!!)

You get 767s.

I love that jet. 757 is better though!

Time to see how plastic flies......

Question for those in the know. I'm currently finishing up initial a/c training in MSP and about to start OE. Someone told me that after OE was finished, that I had the option of dropping the rest of the month and just getting paid the credit that I had accumulated thus far in the month vs. being time available per the PWA. I talked with training scheduling and they didn't have a clue either way. So I called crew scheduling and they gave me a big negative. However, it's in their interest for me to not drop the last ten days of the month so I want to pursue it. Any Delta-S'ers have any knowledge of this? If not, who do you recommend that I ask?

Christmas cheer? This bid is going to put a damper on Christmas for a large number of ATL pilots. Suffice to say if you are an ATL pilot, update your displacement preferences. You are going to need them.

The worst part is they can't post awards til after SOC (Jan 1?).
This is going to be a long, tense wait.

Happy New Year. Welcome to Detroit.

Let's go to Guam, it's a low hanging fruit. With the increased presence of US military, the total population of Guam is expected to increase by 25% by 2014. CAL is pulling back so let's go get it!

ATL? Is that still a base? I heard they were shutting it down. The writing is on the wall, you can see it in the crew room bathroom. Right above the urinal. It has grafitti on it. Says EAT ME most of the time.

I need to know where the slots are going to be in order to update them... post the bid already!

I started a spreadsheet to work on it and realized I couldn't do anything with it until i knew what was moving where.

You should have the option of a "blank regular line" for the remainder of the month. You get no guarantee, buy you can pick up trips in open time if you want to fly.

Section 23 D. 19 is your reference point in the contract

In other words FNWA metal is going away sooner than expected and said pilots will be absorbed by AE into ATL?

Warm or Cold?