Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 723361)

In other words FNWA metal is going away sooner than expected and said pilots will be absorbed by AE into ATL?

Warm or Cold?

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 723355)

The worst part is they can't post awards til after SOC (Jan 1?).
This is going to be a long, tense wait.

Happy New Year. Welcome to Detroit.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 723368)

Cold... more to do with their staffing. The parking of the 9's isnt helping though.

Originally Posted by Free Bird (Post 723361)

In other words FNWA metal is going away sooner than expected and said pilots will be absorbed by AE into ATL?

Warm or Cold?

Originally Posted by 135TOAD (Post 723356)

Let's go to Guam, it's a low hanging fruit. With the increased presence of US military, the total population of Guam is expected to increase by 25% by 2014. CAL is pulling back so let's go get it!

Originally Posted by scambo1 (Post 723212)

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Bar;
I had actually heard a little different version.

What I heard was that GUM was an emerging opportunity since air micronesia (CAL) was in pullback mode and DAL saw that as an opportunity to fill the void. Additionally, the GUM operation would dovetail well with asia hub operations. The GUM as fallback (to NRT) option was something I have only seen in this thread.

FWIW, it doesn't mean I heard correctly, but what I have posted makes more sense to me.

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I am still interested in hearing ACL's surprise in the AE. None of my contacts have any idea what it might be - if anything. A PM would be nice so I can rebalance my displacement preferences.

scambo

Originally Posted by Ferd149 (Post 723216)

Scambo,

I've heard the same and just to add, the other NRT rumor is that we need to fill freighter slots, ergo 737s for really small markets that Cal is pulling back from.

Interesting times out here,
Ferd

Originally Posted by 135TOAD (Post 723356)

Let's go to Guam, it's a low hanging fruit. With the increased presence of US military, the total population of Guam is expected to increase by 25% by 2014. CAL is pulling back so let's go get it!

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 723387)

Who gets trained first again? AE's in seniority then MD's in reverse seniority, right???

Originally Posted by Superpilot92 (Post 723383)

CAL is pulling back, and they arent in SKYTEAM anymore therefore DAL has lost its feed and codeshare ability in GUM. This is a great time for us to ramp up GUM and set up shop.

Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 723389)

AE's in seniority, VD's in seniority, MD's in reverse seniority.

Originally Posted by jdt30 (Post 723390)

Where has CAL stated that it is pulling back in Guam?

CONTINENTAL MICRONESIA LOOKS AT FURTHER EXPANSION - November 27, 2009

Continental Micronesia adding Manila-Guam flights - Pinoy Abroad - GMANews.TV - Official Website of GMA News and Public Affairs - Latest Philippine News

Continental eyes expansion | guampdn.com | Pacific Daily News

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 723392)

Thanks 80! Peaking in on the rumors, I've changed my mind on what to put on my cards 3 times in the last 3 hours. :D

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 723395)

I asked a CAL buddy and he said he hadn't heard they were shrinking Guam at all.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 723395)

I asked a CAL buddy and he said he hadn't heard they were shrinking Guam at all.

Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 723377)

Cold. DC-9s are going away, but the big losses on this bid will be in ATL. About half the 765 category moving to NYC, and about a third of the 767 category gone. There will be much carnage in ATL.

On the plus side if you are based in NYC expect to move up in the world.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 723392)

Thanks 80! Peaking in on the rumors, I've changed my mind on what to put on my cards 3 times in the last 3 hours. :D

Originally Posted by Eck4Life (Post 723349)

Question for those in the know. I'm currently finishing up initial a/c training in MSP and about to start OE. Someone told me that after OE was finished, that I had the option of dropping the rest of the month and just getting paid the credit that I had accumulated thus far in the month vs. being time available per the PWA. I talked with training scheduling and they didn't have a clue either way. So I called crew scheduling and they gave me a big negative. However, it's in their interest for me to not drop the last ten days of the month so I want to pursue it. Any Delta-S'ers have any knowledge of this? If not, who do you recommend that I ask?

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 723405)

Do not waste your time until you see the bid. Trust me.

Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 723421)

But, you know I have possible plans that have deadlines coming up in the upcoming days. That's why I'm a little more into it right now than I normally would be at this point. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 723426)

IMO you will have plenty of time after you graduate to compete the guessing process. Just put a VD to the DTW9B and you will be fine. :D

Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 723377)

Cold. DC-9s are going away, but the big losses on this bid will be in ATL. About half the 765 category moving to NYC, and about a third of the 767 category gone. There will be much carnage in ATL.

On the plus side if you are based in NYC expect to move up in the world.

Originally Posted by Eck4Life (Post 723349)

Question for those in the know. I'm currently finishing up initial a/c training in MSP and about to start OE. Someone told me that after OE was finished, that I had the option of dropping the rest of the month and just getting paid the credit that I had accumulated thus far in the month vs. being time available per the PWA. I talked with training scheduling and they didn't have a clue either way. So I called crew scheduling and they gave me a big negative. However, it's in their interest for me to not drop the last ten days of the month so I want to pursue it. Any Delta-S'ers have any knowledge of this? If not, who do you recommend that I ask?

Originally Posted by hoserpilot (Post 723287)

I want a good Christmas present. Tell everyone on the 4th floor to spread some Christmas cheer on this AE. I haven't been naughty, just nice, I didn't pout or cry, just hook me up with growth....at mainline. Should we all get together and spike their eggnog?

Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 723447)

This is news to me. Any truth to this rumor?

Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 723511)

Don't know. But my source is a 767 LCA who lives in my neighborhood. He heard it from his CLCP.

Originally Posted by Burn Notice (Post 723522)

To add more fuel to the proverbial fire, most guys I have flown with are looking at going with the time to JFK, but probably not gonna do it. Don't want the hassle. Course, this is informal and it gets talked to death and flip-flopped over 10 hours.

Burn Notice

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 723529)

Lets hope that the guys that want to hang on to the ER in NYC get to.

If rumor becomes fact, ATL will be bloody on the widebody seats. Let just hope they let those that want to stay in ATL stay in ATL.

Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 723534)

I'm seriously thinking of making the move from ATL ER to NYC ER. I'd be 100 places senior to where I am right now if I was there already, and a commute on B6 to JFK can't be any worse than a commute to ATL on ASA. Plus added bonus, I could fly with DT from PHX!

Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 723456)

I doubt we'll see anything quite that harsh. Atlanta is the most profitable hub in the system. Detroit might make for a convenient flow to Asia, but they can deadhead 767 crews to NRT from Atlanta just as easily as they can from DTW.

Lets wait and see.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 723529)

There are plenty that live in FL that will just commute that way. The ones that don't will be senior enough to bump whomever they want out of the ER in ATL.

I am sure that 765 in NYC will go quite senior. Good! Lets hope that the guys that want to hang on to the ER in NYC get to.

If rumor becomes fact, ATL will be bloody on the widebody seats. Let just hope they let those that want to stay in ATL stay in ATL.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 723549)

What base is most crashpad friendly? NYC?

Check, love the picture.

Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 723549)

What base is most crashpad friendly? NYC?

Check, love the picture.

Originally Posted by Check Essential (Post 723544)

Problem is many of the ATL765 guys won't even be able to hold it in NYC now that its open to FNWA. I think you are correct. That category is going to be very senior. Filled with FNWA 757/A320 guys who have been waiting a long time for widebody seats.

"Bloody" is right. There's going to be a massacre in Atlanta.