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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 723818)
I think DTWDC9B will always be a option :D
But yes, DAL-S can bid or be displaced to, any ex-NWA aircraft/bases, except the B747-400 on this upcoming bid. |
Originally Posted by groundstop
(Post 723823)
I didn't think they were posting any openings in DTW or MEM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 723821)
I have no idea if this is a possibility, but there are other A330 sims in the world. It could be cheaper to DH people over to France/Germany/etc for training than purchase one right now.
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 723821)
I have no idea if this is a possibility, but there are other A330 sims in the world. It could be cheaper to DH people over to France/Germany/etc for training than purchase one right now.
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Originally Posted by groundstop
(Post 723823)
I didn't think they were posting any openings in DTW or MEM
Side thought, I recently heard that there may not even be a MEM DC9 base by the end of next year when they park the dc930/40's. |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 723828)
The 2nd sim is suppose to be up and running in mid Feb in MSP:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 723829)
They may or may not but what if a decent amount of people bid out of those positions? Wouldnt that cause an opening?
Side thought, I recently heard that there may not even be a MEM DC9 base by the end of next year when they park the dc930/40's. |
Originally Posted by bigdaddie
(Post 723687)
As a side note, I think the only hope for us out west is that we get the SEA flying. You guys in ATL are crying about 60 CA and FO positions maybe going away. What is that, maybe 2% of your flying? LAX lost about 10% in recent history. Not to mention SLC and CVG or remember DFW?
This will be the first pull down of ATL that I can remember, IF it actually happens. Come on guys "spread the wealth around." BD
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 723774)
Straight from the "horse's mouth," so to speak... the bid will be coming out on friday.
"Significant" displacement from ATL767 and ATL765. He is attending a briefing tomorrow and will put out information to the LCP's/AQFO's on that shortly after in anticipation of a flood of phone calls and emails .
Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 723377)
Cold. DC-9s are going away, but the big losses on this bid will be in ATL. About half the 765 category moving to NYC, and about a third of the 767 category gone. There will be much carnage in ATL.
On the plus side if you are based in NYC expect to move up in the world. 1) Will the DTW 777 flying be 4-man or 3-man crews? That makes a big difference on the number of A's. 2) If I was trying to get rid of 767 domestic, then on every AE I too would have cuts. The question is and nobody has mentioned so I'm curious, will there be a ramp up of ER even if this AE shows no vacancies? Anotherwords, only people being MD'd will get in? Thats what I would do to save as much $ as possible on training. 3) As to the question about cutting ATL flying, if you look at CVG and NYC there seems to be a plethora of almost strict ATL pairings with their flying. I don't think they're cutting it, just if these negative rumors were right then spreading ATL flying out to all of the other bases. Just my thought. |
How much training do you think will be required to go MD88B -> DC9B?
A CD? Maybe a turn with a LCA? Thx |
4) What rumors are the training department guys hearing? Just expect lots and lots of events?
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When the bid comes out the best guess for the plan will be on the 22D report. Compare that to the current staffing levels and you will have your answer.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 723831)
Might be other reasons for it too! Yes, I told you:rolleyes:
A good amount of flying out of MEM is done with DC9s and if the 30/40s are gone then something has to replace that lift or it has to be shifted elsewhere. The regionals arent getting more planes so that shouldnt be the answer and its rumored that CPZ is shifting a lot of their ops to LGA next year so that brings up ALOT of Questions as to what the plans for MEM are. |
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 723835)
How much training do you think will be required to go MD88B -> DC9B?
A CD? Maybe a turn with a LCA? Thx |
Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 723835)
How much training do you think will be required to go MD88B -> DC9B?
A CD? Maybe a turn with a LCA? No FMS. No FMGS (or whatever you call the pretty lights on the panel) No VNAV No autoland And that's just what I know from flying the -9 at another carrier and jumpseating on the Mad Dog. |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 723834)
I think, given the quotes below, given that we know 50% of the 765s to NYC and if Xray is right 1/3 of the ATL 767 group then you're looking at around 300 seats. Thats about 8% of ATL. But thats a guess looking at bid packages.
--- 1) Will the DTW 777 flying be 4-man or 3-man crews? That makes a big difference on the number of A's. 2) If I was trying to get rid of 767 domestic, then on every AE I too would have cuts. The question is and nobody has mentioned so I'm curious, will there be a ramp up of ER even if this AE shows no vacancies? Anotherwords, only people being MD'd will get in? Thats what I would do to save as much $ as possible on training. 3) As to the question about cutting ATL flying, if you look at CVG and NYC there seems to be a plethora of almost strict ATL pairings with their flying. I don't think they're cutting it, just if these negative rumors were right then spreading ATL flying out to all of the other bases. Just my thought. 1) DTW will be flying HKG, PVG, and ICN.... all 4 man rotations. 2) That is a possibility- I am hearing no vacancies on the ATL ER despite the chunk coming out of the domestic. 3) That is pretty much what is happening.... |
Why has ATL 767 dwindled so much? I thought we had a bunch of 757s in the desert. They have taken a hit on every bid that I have seen. Why do they do that instead of making it an ER catagory with tons of domestic time?
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Originally Posted by Lifeisgood
(Post 723835)
How much training do you think will be required to go MD88B -> DC9B?
A CD? Maybe a turn with a LCA? Thx |
Originally Posted by iaflyer
(Post 723842)
I suspect a full course, but I really have no idea. The DC9 has:
No FMS. No FMGS (or whatever you call the pretty lights on the panel) No VNAV No autoland And that's just what I know from flying the -9 at another carrier and jumpseating on the Mad Dog. |
Originally Posted by beer
(Post 723846)
Why has ATL 767 dwindled so much? I thought we had a bunch of 757s in the desert. They have taken a hit on every bid that I have seen. Why do they do that instead of making it an ER catagory with tons of domestic time?
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Originally Posted by beer
(Post 723846)
Why has ATL 767 dwindled so much? I thought we had a bunch of 757s in the desert. They have taken a hit on every bid that I have seen. Why do they do that instead of making it an ER catagory with tons of domestic time?
If the economy had not tanked like it did, it would have required a lot more training to do. It has been fairly painless this way. Also I would not be overly surprised to see another 767 category go away or get converted. Just a guess on my part. |
off topic but anyone have the luggage works rollerboard that is hard plastic instead of the metal??? and how has it held up?? and where is best place to get rollerboards these days??
figured new plane after this ae why not a new bag!!!! |
Originally Posted by forgot to bid
(Post 723836)
4) What rumors are the training department guys hearing? Just expect lots and lots of events?
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Originally Posted by crazypilot
(Post 723852)
off topic but anyone have the luggage works rollerboard that is hard plastic instead of the metal??? and how has it held up?? and where is best place to get rollerboards these days??
figured new plane after this ae why not a new bag!!!! |
Originally Posted by Superpilot92
(Post 723839)
Well the question arises if the MD90's will be used to replace that flying as well as airbus's out of MEM or a shift to "other" ;) bases?
A good amount of flying out of MEM is done with DC9s and if the 30/40s are gone then something has to replace that lift or it has to be shifted elsewhere. The regionals arent getting more planes so that shouldnt be the answer and its rumored that CPZ is shifting a lot of their ops to LGA next year so that brings up ALOT of Questions as to what the plans for MEM are. |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 723844)
1) DTW will be flying HKG, PVG, and ICN.... all 4 man rotations.
2) That is a possibility- I am hearing no vacancies on the ATL ER despite the chunk coming out of the domestic. 3) That is pretty much what is happening.... I wonder if DALPA has the complete demographic make up of the pilot group? Because I do know a few ATL residents that commute to ER, despite probably being able to hold ATL ER, because they prefer the trips there. I'd like to see % of commuters that live in a base. 80, this bunny has a waffle on its head. Your turn. http://www.internet-memes.com/images...4846302421.jpg |
Originally Posted by beer
(Post 723848)
So its a 100 seat cessna is what you are sayin?
http://cessna.com/MungoBlobs/207/905...int01_view.jpg The DC-9 is like an old Cessna... I'm not knocking the -9, it was a great plane in the sixties and seventies. But that was 30-40 years ago. http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../3/1608313.jpg |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 723850)
That's acutally why it's getting whittled away on every bid. The 767 category will no longer exist after a few more bids.... it will be an ER category with oodles of domestic time.
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Really if you look at it, even the late 80s 744 and mid 90s 777 is severely dated compared to some single engine airplanes PFDs and MFDs. Much less the 88 and 756.
I think the price tag to put a synthetic vision PFD with an MFD that can show charts in your Cessna 152 is only like $15K now. |
A330
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 723817)
Doesn't it take a couple months to put one of those things together?
I would dearly love to see the 330 come to ATL on this bid.... I'm actually hoping not on this one, that way more people in front of me will jump out to other categories, get frozen, and then they can have the ATL 330 bid.:D |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 723853)
The 320 guys have been told to cancel all plans and get ready for a crazy amount of training.
-there is going to be a 10% increase in utilization -we are not fat with staffing when our ALV is 81hrs next month Thanks, |
Originally Posted by 1234
(Post 723864)
Any updates to what you are hearing regarding the MSP 320B? Are there any displacements on the next bid expected considering:
-there is going to be a 10% increase in utilization -we are not fat with staffing when our ALV is 81hrs next month Thanks, |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 723847)
It will probably be a full course as there is not approved transition training.
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Heyas,
With UAL seemingly going on a buying spree, I wonder what our "competitive response", if any, will be. In addition to the 787s and 350s, now UAL wants bids from Embraer for narrowbodies. Assuming that mama DAL needs a response, could a C series order be far off? Or is UAL simply going on a spending spree ala TWA before auguring in? Next week on "As the prop turns".... Nu |
Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog
(Post 723867)
Plus relearning how to shoot NDB approaches and DME Arcs on steam gauges. Sadly I'm not joking.
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 723856)
Um think about it.
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
(Post 723868)
With UAL seemingly going on a buying spree, I wonder what our "competitive response", if any, will be.
In addition to the 787s and 350s, now UAL wants bids from Embraer for narrowbodies. Assuming that mama DAL needs a response, could a C series order be far off? Or is UAL simply going on a spending spree ala TWA before auguring in? I suspect UAL is ordering planes because it's cheap. The deliveries for their planes are 2013-2016, so there is plenty of time for planning. Plus, Delta is getting planes: MD-90s and cheaply. |
Originally Posted by DAL330drvr
(Post 723863)
I'm actually hoping not on this one, that way more people in front of me will jump out to other categories, get frozen, and then they can have the ATL 330 bid.:D
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Originally Posted by 1234
(Post 723864)
Any updates to what you are hearing regarding the MSP 320B? Are there any displacements on the next bid expected considering:
-there is going to be a 10% increase in utilization -we are not fat with staffing when our ALV is 81hrs next month Thanks, --- Just out of curiousity, does the company prefer low ALVs or high? Seems to me when ALVs go high you have more on reserve flying 40 hours a month and getting paid 70, when ALVs are low then everyone is closer to 70ish. If we're short staffed then ALVs are high plus there are greenslips. So wouldn't ideal staffing from the company's standpoint be min ALV, correct reserves, no greenslips? |
Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
(Post 723757)
In celebration of the 20,000th post, here's a bunny with a pancake on its head:
http://users.rcn.com/eglandau/bunny_pancake.jpg http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nybonanza4.jpg |
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