Not trying to start a fight, or change any ideas that might come out of you guys brainstorming, but theres a couple things to keep in mind youre negotiating against.
For one, we as pilots arent negotiating against other pilot groups and we cant sell our services collectively to United. We dont get the kind of business relationship with management the guys who sell us fuel get. We won't either. They are the employer, we are the employee. I hate to offer this up because it will cause some other conversations, but the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions. Probably wildly unpopular but i dont like bringing up problems without a starting place for a solution (even if unrealistic). |
Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
(Post 3376391)
Not trying to start a fight, or change any ideas that might come out of you guys brainstorming, but theres a couple things to keep in mind youre negotiating against.
For one, we as pilots arent negotiating against other pilot groups and we cant sell our services collectively to United. We dont get the kind of business relationship with management the guys who sell us fuel get. We won't either. They are the employer, we are the employee. I hate to offer this up because it will cause some other conversations, but the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions. Probably wildly unpopular but i dont like bringing up problems without a starting place for a solution (even if unrealistic). You (1)can't realistically market your services once you are locked into your employer by seniority, and you (2)can't withdraw your service when the terms become amendable, and you (3)must work for existing wages for an undefined future period. Again, (perpetual) indentured servitude. |
Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
(Post 3376391)
Not trying to start a fight, or change any ideas that might come out of you guys brainstorming, but theres a couple things to keep in mind youre negotiating against.
For one, we as pilots arent negotiating against other pilot groups and we cant sell our services collectively to United. We dont get the kind of business relationship with management the guys who sell us fuel get. We won't either. They are the employer, we are the employee. I hate to offer this up because it will cause some other conversations, but the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions. Probably wildly unpopular but i dont like bringing up problems without a starting place for a solution (even if unrealistic). Scott wouldn’t know how to run a lemonade stand for profit, and don’t even get me started with AA”G” (if they ever dump APA) |
3 new Hawaiian routes announced today. OGG-HNL will be interesting to operate nonstop.
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
(Post 3376391)
...the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions.
Very bad idea. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3376416)
3 new Hawaiian routes announced today. OGG-HNL will be interesting to operate nonstop.
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Originally Posted by 172skychicken
(Post 3376481)
I see DTW/JFK-HNL and ATL-OGG. Where did you see OGG-HNL?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3376506)
Sorry, I meant OGG to ATL. I suspect however there will be more than a few tech stops in HNL for fuel.
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Originally Posted by Myfingershurt
(Post 3376508)
Which plane is going to gonna be doing these new routes?
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3376506)
Sorry, I meant OGG to ATL. I suspect however there will be more than a few tech stops in HNL for fuel.
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Originally Posted by gloopy
(Post 3376517)
Really? That seems like it would rapidly wipe out the razor thin margins that hyper-competitive market offers.
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 3376566)
It’s a 4000 mile trip off a 7000 foot runway. When I flew it to LAX in a widebody we needed a dry runway and 12 knots of headwind. I am told UAL flies it to EWR. It would be interesting to see their stats. I also suspect OGG has better yields than HNL.
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Not our problem. Aeromexico will be flying the route on a 787.
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Originally Posted by tripled
(Post 3376636)
Not our problem. Aeromexico will be flying the route on a 787.
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Originally Posted by theUpsideDown
(Post 3376391)
Not trying to start a fight, or change any ideas that might come out of you guys brainstorming, but theres a couple things to keep in mind youre negotiating against.
For one, we as pilots arent negotiating against other pilot groups and we cant sell our services collectively to United. We dont get the kind of business relationship with management the guys who sell us fuel get. We won't either. They are the employer, we are the employee. I hate to offer this up because it will cause some other conversations, but the only way to fix that relationship with management is to have one union, one seniority list, across all unions. Probably wildly unpopular but i dont like bringing up problems without a starting place for a solution (even if unrealistic). |
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360
(Post 3377290)
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
If you're waiting for a class date any info given now is subject to change . |
Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360
(Post 3377290)
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
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Originally Posted by SpeedChecks360
(Post 3377290)
So sorry to ask probably for the one hundredth time, but can new hires get a religious exemption from the COVID-19 vaccine? It’s hard to keep up with what everyone’s doing.
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Originally Posted by Foggles
(Post 3377444)
Torpedoing your career before it begins is a bold strategy, let’s see if it pays off.
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Anyone know if the ATL gym below A-27 is open?
Thanks Scoop |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 3377464)
Anyone know if the ATL gym below A-27 is open?
Thanks Scoop |
Originally Posted by WhiskeyDog
(Post 3377451)
Or questioning a complete B. S. mandate for reasons that are none of our business. Matter of perspective?
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Open time trips for OE
Can the company pull trips from open time (not QPD time, just regular open time) and give them to a LCA so he can do OEs? Have seen several trips that were sitting in open time disappear and discovered they were given to a LCA to give OE, sometimes to a LCA at a different base with a deadhead attached..
Thanks in advance for any insight. |
Originally Posted by hookshot123
(Post 3377789)
Can the company pull trips from open time (not QPD time, just regular open time) and give them to a LCA so he can do OEs? Have seen several trips that were sitting in open time disappear and discovered they were given to a LCA to give OE, sometimes to a LCA at a different base with a deadhead attached..
Thanks in advance for any insight. |
Originally Posted by hookshot123
(Post 3377789)
Can the company pull trips from open time (not QPD time, just regular open time) and give them to a LCA so he can do OEs? Have seen several trips that were sitting in open time disappear and discovered they were given to a LCA to give OE, sometimes to a LCA at a different base with a deadhead attached..
Thanks in advance for any insight. |
Originally Posted by hookshot123
(Post 3377789)
Can the company pull trips from open time (not QPD time, just regular open time) and give them to a LCA so he can do OEs? Have seen several trips that were sitting in open time disappear and discovered they were given to a LCA to give OE, sometimes to a LCA at a different base with a deadhead attached..
Thanks in advance for any insight. |
Thank you all for the info and insights on the open time trip pulls for OE.
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What are peoples thoughts on how this Russia/Ukraine is going to affect the airline industry?
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Originally Posted by RightSide
(Post 3378338)
What are peoples thoughts on how this Russia/Ukraine is going to affect the airline industry?
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Originally Posted by RightSide
(Post 3378338)
What are peoples thoughts on how this Russia/Ukraine is going to affect the airline industry?
If it is just Ukraine, sadly the rest of the world will move on rather quickly in my opinion. If Putin really is determined to rebuild the old Soviet Union as Biden said: "He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union" Then this is just act 1 and the real pain to Europe and the world is yet to come. . And keep an eye on China....never let a good crisis go to waste. |
Schedule change on the first leg ? Leg to DFW was cancelled on the first only leg on day 1. DH to Lax to catch up with day 2 … any reroute pay due?
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Originally Posted by hookshot123
(Post 3378381)
Can only be negative, just a matter of how bad.
If it is just Ukraine, sadly the rest of the world will move on rather quickly in my opinion. If Putin really is determined to rebuild the old Soviet Union as Biden said: "He has much larger ambitions than Ukraine. He wants to, in fact, reestablish the former Soviet Union" Then this is just act 1 and the real pain to Europe and the world is yet to come. . And keep an eye on China....never let a good crisis go to waste. |
Originally Posted by notEnuf
(Post 3378435)
China would like to quickly shift the world focus from Wuhan to Kiev.
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
(Post 3378482)
Wrong. China would like to shift the world focus from Kiev to Taiwan. Hookshot is spot on.
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Originally Posted by TheWagman
(Post 3378431)
Schedule change on the first leg ? Leg to DFW was cancelled on the first only leg on day 1. DH to Lax to catch up with day 2 … any reroute pay due?
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Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3378561)
Why would China want focus on Taiwan? They seem to be slowly preparing to blockade it and just declare it a part of China someday soon. Seems they would love to have the world keep focus on Ukraine, Putin and anything else then what is going on in Taiwan. JMHO....
Its not a matter of “if” but “when” China makes it move on Taiwan. Do they take advantage of the worlds attention focused on the Ukraine or do they wait and see how the West responds? Either way China will eventually make a play for Taiwan. When is anybody's guess - China plays the long game. Scoop - 15 years of China v Taiwan “exercises” complements of USN. 😱 |
And now for something completely different
Anyone else have trouble “selecting” items with the IPad/IPhone on various company Apps? I have two recurring issues:
My I-Phone often will not allow me to enter a city code in the JS section of MiCrew. Wtith myIdlisting on travelenet my IPad will not let me check the “I accept”. boxes. Very frustrating and I have tried closing and reopening apps etc - Nada. Not sue if this an Apple touchscreen glitch or a App issue. Any thoughts? Anyone else experience this or am I just a hopeless Luddite? Scoop :confused: |
I can't change any of the settings on widget weather. Everything outside of the settings tab seems to work fine.
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Originally Posted by nene
(Post 3378561)
Why would China want focus on Taiwan? They seem to be slowly preparing to blockade it and just declare it a part of China someday soon. Seems they would love to have the world keep focus on Ukraine, Putin and anything else then what is going on in Taiwan. JMHO....
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