Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-27-2010 | 01:17 AM
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10-27-2010 | 03:34 AM
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10-27-2010 | 04:11 AM
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Heyas,
Interesting to note that the current guidance is no new aircraft. A few used MD-90s. Dust off a few birds from the desert.
How many pilot seats did we lose after the merger?
No new metal = no new pilots seats = Hiring for attrition only. Since we have parked a net 60 aircraft, plus a smidge of retirements, plus a smattering of "new" or reactivated airplanes, I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of around 11,000 pilots as the figure we'll see as the new "normal"
With the large RJs effectively owning our small narrowbody lift, and Alaska in growth mode for the west coast, I'd say that stagnation will be here to stay, at least for the next couple years.
Interesting to note that the current guidance is no new aircraft. A few used MD-90s. Dust off a few birds from the desert.
How many pilot seats did we lose after the merger?
No new metal = no new pilots seats = Hiring for attrition only. Since we have parked a net 60 aircraft, plus a smidge of retirements, plus a smattering of "new" or reactivated airplanes, I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of around 11,000 pilots as the figure we'll see as the new "normal"
With the large RJs effectively owning our small narrowbody lift, and Alaska in growth mode for the west coast, I'd say that stagnation will be here to stay, at least for the next couple years.
Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?
At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.
As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.
With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
10-27-2010 | 04:16 AM
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Going to have to side with Slow on this one. Even if they park the remaining 9's it is still net positive. If they keep buying MD-90's and maybe a few WB jets over the next three years, there is tempered growth.
I much prefer rational growth and upward movement that quickly turns upside down at every hiccup of the economy.
I much prefer rational growth and upward movement that quickly turns upside down at every hiccup of the economy.
10-27-2010 | 04:16 AM
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Also look at the guidance that DAL gave on the 10K for the CHQ and RJET contracts. Those will also be gone in a few years as well.
10-27-2010 | 04:45 AM
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Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?
At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.
As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.
With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?
At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.
As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.
With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
Slow;
I just gotta be a smartass here and chuckle outloud at the "no spin zone" comment.
I do also like how you followed it up with the (spin) "in recent memory."
But, big picture, I do appreciate you laying all the numbers out so I don't have to track them down.
I had chili for dinner last night. So, today I'm keepin it real. Thanx.
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10-27-2010 | 05:00 AM
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Even I knew it was a ridiculous comment, hence the
!I try to be as "fair and balanced" as that faux news network!
Glad to be of service on the numbers. You can verify the fleet numbers on the Tech-ops page of a Delta computer. OAG provided some, and Delta's SEC filings provided the others.
10-27-2010 | 05:05 AM
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"I think the round dial drawings on the NG screens is hideous. "
I think that " U " shaped thing on a pole in front of the pilot is hideous too !!
I think that " U " shaped thing on a pole in front of the pilot is hideous too !!
10-27-2010 | 05:20 AM
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They also have an excel spread sheet of the fleets on the Network page.
10-27-2010 | 05:48 AM
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