Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-26-2010, 06:56 PM
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Roadie;
Put you codes in and then go look at your time card on DBMS. You are paid for all of them. It is pay and no credit.
Put you codes in and then go look at your time card on DBMS. You are paid for all of them. It is pay and no credit.
10-26-2010, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Think of the adjective possibilities:
Super Duper Premium Wide-body!
Uber Super Premium Wide-body!
Super premium Double-wide Bodies! For the trailer park crowd.
Plus size Premium Wide-bodies! For the big boned women crowd.
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Ahhhh - This is too easy.
Scoop
Super Duper Premium Wide-body!
Uber Super Premium Wide-body!
Super premium Double-wide Bodies! For the trailer park crowd.
Plus size Premium Wide-bodies! For the big boned women crowd.
Super-sized Premium Wide-bodies! For the fast food crowd.
Ahhhh - This is too easy.
Scoop
Really, I'm surprised that thing came out that ugly. I think the 330 is a good looking airplane, I don't know what they were thinking with the beluga whale look on the 380.
10-26-2010, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
I guess I don't know what you mean by "3 configs" for the CO 737s. Alaska runs 737-400's with round dials and 737NG's - with tapes with the same crews. Although they have a much smaller fleet, their 737 mix is very similar to CO's.
CAL had 733s that were completely analog and then all of the NG stuff which required the use of the round dial pics but now that the 733 fleet is going away or gone I wonder if they'll go to speed tapes as I think the 735 has the ASI tapes in the PFD- could be wrong.
A 764 LCA explained to me that is why the CAL 756 and 764 fleet is a single category but since DAL doesn't have that option on the 756 PFDs then it remains a seperate category.
Source Picture:
Alaska 734: Photos: Boeing 737-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 738: Photos: Boeing 737-824 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 752: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-757-224/0695499/L
DAL 752 (no tape): Photos: Boeing 757-232 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
10-26-2010, 07:49 PM
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So 748s. Hmmm. Is that a single category with the 744?
Everyone get their customer engagement kits yet?
It's got some... uh... good stuff on... uh... PA's.
It's funny about PA's, with some they're not made at all because they frankly don't like people and then there are some that do it way too much and at 545am or 1135pm when nobody in their right mind cares. But one thing I heard that UAL tells their pilots is that you must remind them when you're early. They always think you're late if you stop while taxiing into the gate so rub it in.
Everyone get their customer engagement kits yet?
It's got some... uh... good stuff on... uh... PA's.
It's funny about PA's, with some they're not made at all because they frankly don't like people and then there are some that do it way too much and at 545am or 1135pm when nobody in their right mind cares. But one thing I heard that UAL tells their pilots is that you must remind them when you're early. They always think you're late if you stop while taxiing into the gate so rub it in.
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10-26-2010, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
But it looks like the Alaska 734s have speed tapes embedded in their PFDs along with the traditional round dial ASI and that is why they can fly the NG's with speed tapes as well as a round dial cockpit as one category.
CAL had 733s that were completely analog and then all of the NG stuff which required the use of the round dial pics but now that the 733 fleet is going away or gone I wonder if they'll go to speed tapes as I think the 735 has the ASI tapes in the PFD- could be wrong.
A 764 LCA explained to me that is why the CAL 756 and 764 fleet is a single category but since DAL doesn't have that option on the 756 PFDs then it remains a seperate category.
Source Picture:
Alaska 734: Photos: Boeing 737-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 738: Photos: Boeing 737-824 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 752: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-757-224/0695499/L
DAL 752 (no tape): Photos: Boeing 757-232 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL had 733s that were completely analog and then all of the NG stuff which required the use of the round dial pics but now that the 733 fleet is going away or gone I wonder if they'll go to speed tapes as I think the 735 has the ASI tapes in the PFD- could be wrong.
A 764 LCA explained to me that is why the CAL 756 and 764 fleet is a single category but since DAL doesn't have that option on the 756 PFDs then it remains a seperate category.
Source Picture:
Alaska 734: Photos: Boeing 737-4Q8 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 738: Photos: Boeing 737-824 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
CAL 752: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Continental-Airlines/Boeing-757-224/0695499/L
DAL 752 (no tape): Photos: Boeing 757-232 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
Good call on the -300's - I didn't realize that theirs were non-EFIS. According to APC their -300's are indeed all gone - the only classic 737's that CO has are the -500's and they have the EFIS with A/S tapes just like AS's -400's.
Photos: Boeing 737-524 Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net
So keeping the round dial presentation on their NG's seems to make no sense now except for the fact that it is their current standard. Making the change to the tape display on the NG's is probably pretty low on the old priority list
10-26-2010, 07:58 PM
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I think the round dial drawings on the NG screens is hideous.
10-27-2010, 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Roadie;
Put you codes in and then go look at your time card on DBMS. You are paid for all of them. It is pay and no credit.
Put you codes in and then go look at your time card on DBMS. You are paid for all of them. It is pay and no credit.
Acl65 thank you for the info. Glad to hear we are not training without getting paid.
10-27-2010, 03:34 AM
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We are getting paid, but it is not per minute of your time.
10-27-2010, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,
Interesting to note that the current guidance is no new aircraft. A few used MD-90s. Dust off a few birds from the desert.
How many pilot seats did we lose after the merger?
No new metal = no new pilots seats = Hiring for attrition only. Since we have parked a net 60 aircraft, plus a smidge of retirements, plus a smattering of "new" or reactivated airplanes, I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of around 11,000 pilots as the figure we'll see as the new "normal"
With the large RJs effectively owning our small narrowbody lift, and Alaska in growth mode for the west coast, I'd say that stagnation will be here to stay, at least for the next couple years.
Interesting to note that the current guidance is no new aircraft. A few used MD-90s. Dust off a few birds from the desert.
How many pilot seats did we lose after the merger?
No new metal = no new pilots seats = Hiring for attrition only. Since we have parked a net 60 aircraft, plus a smidge of retirements, plus a smattering of "new" or reactivated airplanes, I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of around 11,000 pilots as the figure we'll see as the new "normal"
With the large RJs effectively owning our small narrowbody lift, and Alaska in growth mode for the west coast, I'd say that stagnation will be here to stay, at least for the next couple years.
Why don't we enter the "no spin zone", Nu?
At the merger there were 768 mainline aircraft. Now there are 726. That reduction happened over the worst airline recession in recent memory. If you look at the last few SEC reports, management has contracted to add 21 more MD-90's, 12 757's, 7 767-300 and 2 767-300 ER's back to the mainline fleet. They're also looking at purchasing a bunch more MD-90's. So they've got 42 + aircraft coming into the fleet over the next year or so. To be fair, we'll also lose 7 DC-9's. Paltry? I guess you've got shiny jet syndrome.
As to the large RJ's owning our narrowbody lift, the 10-Q has a different answer. DCI domestic ASM's decreased from 23.6% of total domestic ASM's in 2009 to 21.6% of total domestic ASM's in the same period of 2010. The number of departures, block hours, and airframes has gone down dramatically too. DCI had 715 aircraft last year. Now they've got 642, and that's before the scheduled reduction of 52 aircraft at CMR and 32 at Mesaba over the next two years.
With the numbers posted above, I'd say your view of "stagnation here to stay" is wrong.
10-27-2010, 04:16 AM
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Going to have to side with Slow on this one. Even if they park the remaining 9's it is still net positive. If they keep buying MD-90's and maybe a few WB jets over the next three years, there is tempered growth.
I much prefer rational growth and upward movement that quickly turns upside down at every hiccup of the economy.
I much prefer rational growth and upward movement that quickly turns upside down at every hiccup of the economy.
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