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It's an idea, but I think that it would not pass MEMRAT. I would expect it to be equal to have any chance of passing.
Good idea though. Ultra Long call work better on International Jets.
Good idea though. Ultra Long call work better on International Jets.
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Exactly. I would expect that.
Then the guys who truly didn't want to be on reserve could hold lines.
Ultra long call, a 75 hour guarantee, strictly voluntary short call with 2 hours pay above the guarantee for every short call, stuff like that ---- but only for NYCM88B or MSPM88B or DTW320B, etc.
You'd have plenty of guys bid that. The rest can then be lineholders.
Or reserve by choice on bigger equipment.
That would be more fair and cheaper than trying to make reserve life easier and commutable for wide-body captains.
Then the guys who truly didn't want to be on reserve could hold lines.
Ultra long call, a 75 hour guarantee, strictly voluntary short call with 2 hours pay above the guarantee for every short call, stuff like that ---- but only for NYCM88B or MSPM88B or DTW320B, etc.
You'd have plenty of guys bid that. The rest can then be lineholders.
Or reserve by choice on bigger equipment.
That would be more fair and cheaper than trying to make reserve life easier and commutable for wide-body captains.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit --> no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to do it.
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Heard an idea floated the other day:
They are thinking of making reserve much friendlier and more financially lucrative and much better staffed; but only for the most junior categories in each base. So the changes would essentially help only the M88Bs, A320Bs and DC9Bs , etc. Only the positions where guys have no alternative to reserve.
The logic is that everyone else is on reserve by choice.
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What would you guys think about that concept?
Apparently Delta management is very reluctant to make reserve "commuter friendly" because of the costs and it is going to cost DALPA a lot of our negotiating capital if we want to do it.
They are thinking of making reserve much friendlier and more financially lucrative and much better staffed; but only for the most junior categories in each base. So the changes would essentially help only the M88Bs, A320Bs and DC9Bs , etc. Only the positions where guys have no alternative to reserve.
The logic is that everyone else is on reserve by choice.
...
What would you guys think about that concept?
Apparently Delta management is very reluctant to make reserve "commuter friendly" because of the costs and it is going to cost DALPA a lot of our negotiating capital if we want to do it.
Now that I have complained, a possible solution.
If said pilot is living within 180 miles of a Delta pilot base in the junior most category:
Artificially beef up the staffing formulas on the bottom of said categories.
Alternate said pilots between a month of reserve and a month of holding a schedule. No one is punished as the staffing is artificially high to begin with.
or
If a currently commuting pilot maintains a bid prefence under his AE and/or VD indicating ONLY a preference to be based within 180 miles of his home of record AND maintains that top preference until he is awarded a base within 180 miles of his home of record:
a. Positive space to work for shortcall assignments
b. Positive space for the assignment of a trip
c. Paid hotel rooms and perdiem a. and b.
d. An alternating monthly schedule of reserve and block
e. Seat locks will be removed as required to enable the pilot to bid into a base within 180 miles of his home of record, in seniority order
and
For all reserve pilots:
a. 15 days of availability for 75 hour guarantee, based upon average daily credit of 5 hours per day. This can be shifted as low as 13 days for 65 hours of pay enabling the pilots to maintain a line of work outside of flying as a hedge and preparation against future economic downturns and furlough. Such pilots will be permitted to conduct outside flying under part 91, flight instructing, EMS, police, fire, etc. Such pilots must ensure that this time doesn't conflict with FARs.
b. The ability to bid short call RAP periods and/or longcall in seniority order, a maximum of six short calls per month.
c. The option of bidding all shortcalls for the entire month and being awarded the higher of 80 hours, the ALV or the actual hours or days flown based upon all the duty rigs associated with a regular line pilot and five hours per day guarantee.
d. Scheduling will maintain a ratio of long call and shortcall, with a minimum staffing for shortcall.
e. Trips in open time awarded in seniority order. If a pilot has not put a yellow slip request in, then trips for the following day must be offered by scheduling in seniority order, unless the senior pilots has indicated a preference via yellow slip.
f. Eliminate the requirement to check your schedule on a day off. However, a pilot can expect an assignment or RAP as early as 12:00 the first day and a commuting reserve pilot must anticipate a positive space flight to his base of coverage on the first mainline, codeshare or DCI flight available from his home of record.
These concepts would reward those attempting to bid into a base in which they already live within 180 miles of and rectify the pay discrepancies between those stuck each month at 70 hours and those that can hold regular line positions. In effect, everyone would have about the same pay and 15 days per month of obligation. Of course greenslips and working over the ALV with swaps and open time would still be an option.
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Doing it for all categories would be great. But very expensive.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit -- no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit -- no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to.
The #1 pilot on the seniority list can bid M88B reserve if he wants to.
The last pilot on the seniority list won't be able to hold M88B reserve.
The whole "being on reserve really stinks" problem would go away over night. (or after a couple AE bids)
Last edited by Check Essential; 11-08-2010 at 10:21 AM.
Just did one of those trips where you leave ATL and dont come back til the freedom flight. I did DTW, BOS, ORD, MSP, GRR, EWR. The ramp and gate at most of these sucked!!! We came back to ATL..never stopped rolling!! Gate agent in the jetway and ground crew waiting. Had power before I could shut the engine down and heat before I could run a checklist!!
I know we all complain about ATL and I have flown my whole career out of here but it really is much better than most places I have been!!!
On a different note..the FNWA FAs are ****ed!!!!! But all were very nice!!
War Eagle!!!
I know we all complain about ATL and I have flown my whole career out of here but it really is much better than most places I have been!!!
On a different note..the FNWA FAs are ****ed!!!!! But all were very nice!!
War Eagle!!!
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U.S. TSA prohibits printer and toner cartridges in baggage
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November 8, 2010
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration issued a Security Directive to airlines Monday prohibiting printer and toner ink cartridges weighing 16 ounces (453 grams) in passenger carry-on and checked baggage on domestic and international flights. This applies to revenue and nonrevenue passengers as well as crewmembers. This SD does not apply to Delta Private Charter flights.
“The TSA is implementing new security measures including a prohibition of the transportation on board domestic or international flights of printer/toner cartridges weighing 16 ounces or more,” the TSA said in a statement to air carriers. “Accordingly, effective Monday, November 8, 2010, passengers and crewmembers are prohibited from transporting these items in either carry-on or checked baggage.”
TSA what a joke. A day late and a dollar short comes to mind.
what a gigantic useless government agency we created.
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November 8, 2010
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration issued a Security Directive to airlines Monday prohibiting printer and toner ink cartridges weighing 16 ounces (453 grams) in passenger carry-on and checked baggage on domestic and international flights. This applies to revenue and nonrevenue passengers as well as crewmembers. This SD does not apply to Delta Private Charter flights.
“The TSA is implementing new security measures including a prohibition of the transportation on board domestic or international flights of printer/toner cartridges weighing 16 ounces or more,” the TSA said in a statement to air carriers. “Accordingly, effective Monday, November 8, 2010, passengers and crewmembers are prohibited from transporting these items in either carry-on or checked baggage.”
TSA what a joke. A day late and a dollar short comes to mind.
what a gigantic useless government agency we created.fish
Doing it for all categories would be great. But very expensive.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit --> no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to do it.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit --> no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to do it.
Call me a cynic but there are way too many fraternity hazing types that think "I had to go through it so you should too", that would nix almost anything that didn't benefit themselves directly.
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Yes, but many of those who "had to go through it too," are the biggest beneficiaries of age 65.
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