Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
11-08-2010, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Doing it for all categories would be great. But very expensive.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit -- no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit -- no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to.
11-08-2010, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
I like it as well. Having a "choice" essentially makes it more equal for all.
The #1 pilot on the seniority list can bid M88B reserve if he wants to.
The last pilot on the seniority list won't be able to hold M88B reserve.
The whole "being on reserve really stinks" problem would go away over night. (or after a couple AE bids)
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11-08-2010, 10:17 AM
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Just did one of those trips where you leave ATL and dont come back til the freedom flight. I did DTW, BOS, ORD, MSP, GRR, EWR. The ramp and gate at most of these sucked!!! We came back to ATL..never stopped rolling!! Gate agent in the jetway and ground crew waiting. Had power before I could shut the engine down and heat before I could run a checklist!!
I know we all complain about ATL and I have flown my whole career out of here but it really is much better than most places I have been!!!
On a different note..the FNWA FAs are ****ed!!!!! But all were very nice!!
War Eagle!!!
I know we all complain about ATL and I have flown my whole career out of here but it really is much better than most places I have been!!!
On a different note..the FNWA FAs are ****ed!!!!! But all were very nice!!
War Eagle!!!
11-08-2010, 10:37 AM
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U.S. TSA prohibits printer and toner cartridges in baggage
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November 8, 2010
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration issued a Security Directive to airlines Monday prohibiting printer and toner ink cartridges weighing 16 ounces (453 grams) in passenger carry-on and checked baggage on domestic and international flights. This applies to revenue and nonrevenue passengers as well as crewmembers. This SD does not apply to Delta Private Charter flights.
“The TSA is implementing new security measures including a prohibition of the transportation on board domestic or international flights of printer/toner cartridges weighing 16 ounces or more,” the TSA said in a statement to air carriers. “Accordingly, effective Monday, November 8, 2010, passengers and crewmembers are prohibited from transporting these items in either carry-on or checked baggage.”
TSA what a joke. A day late and a dollar short comes to mind.
what a gigantic useless government agency we created.
fish
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November 8, 2010
The U.S. Transportation Security Administration issued a Security Directive to airlines Monday prohibiting printer and toner ink cartridges weighing 16 ounces (453 grams) in passenger carry-on and checked baggage on domestic and international flights. This applies to revenue and nonrevenue passengers as well as crewmembers. This SD does not apply to Delta Private Charter flights.
“The TSA is implementing new security measures including a prohibition of the transportation on board domestic or international flights of printer/toner cartridges weighing 16 ounces or more,” the TSA said in a statement to air carriers. “Accordingly, effective Monday, November 8, 2010, passengers and crewmembers are prohibited from transporting these items in either carry-on or checked baggage.”
TSA what a joke. A day late and a dollar short comes to mind.
what a gigantic useless government agency we created.fish
11-08-2010, 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Doing it for all categories would be great. But very expensive.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit --> no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to do it.
There's the rub.
Just do it for the bottom paying categories and sell it to the membership by pointing out the benefit --> no pilot at Delta Air Lines will ever have to sit reserve again unless they choose to do it.
Call me a cynic but there are way too many fraternity hazing types that think "I had to go through it so you should too", that would nix almost anything that didn't benefit themselves directly.
11-08-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
Call me a cynic but there are way too many fraternity hazing types that think "I had to go through it so you should too", that would nix almost anything that didn't benefit themselves directly.
11-08-2010, 11:28 AM
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If you are going to change the reserve rules, which I'm all for, they need to apply to all categories not just a few. "Commuting is a choice" and "Reserve is a choice" seem to be parallel arguments. I don't agree with either statement. We have been over commuting ad nauseum and I won't go there any more. But you can use the same argument that reserve is not necessarlily a choice in the higher categories either. Look at 737 and 767 in LA (Los Angeles for those of you on the east coast!
), you could be living there and not be able to hold a line in either category. Same goes for SEA which just has widebody cats. Now your saying I have to move/change bases/downbid to get this deal? It'll never float.
Fire Away!!
Denny
), you could be living there and not be able to hold a line in either category. Same goes for SEA which just has widebody cats. Now your saying I have to move/change bases/downbid to get this deal? It'll never float.Fire Away!!
Denny
11-08-2010, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
Exactly. I would expect that.
Then the guys who truly didn't want to be on reserve could hold lines.
Ultra long call, a 75 hour guarantee, strictly voluntary short call with 2 hours pay above the guarantee for every short call, stuff like that ---- but only for NYCM88B or MSPM88B or DTW320B, etc.
You'd have plenty of guys bid that. The rest can then be lineholders.
Or reserve by choice on bigger equipment.
That would be more fair and cheaper than trying to make reserve life easier and commutable for wide-body captains.
Then the guys who truly didn't want to be on reserve could hold lines.
Ultra long call, a 75 hour guarantee, strictly voluntary short call with 2 hours pay above the guarantee for every short call, stuff like that ---- but only for NYCM88B or MSPM88B or DTW320B, etc.
You'd have plenty of guys bid that. The rest can then be lineholders.
Or reserve by choice on bigger equipment.
That would be more fair and cheaper than trying to make reserve life easier and commutable for wide-body captains.
11-08-2010, 11:33 AM
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Check;
What this will do is create a phenomenon of the reserve percentages in the bigger jets going really junior. What it will end up doing is allowing new hires to flying the large jets for the same pay with worse work rules. See it as kind of a "B" scale of sorts.
Guys like me would avoid reserve on one jet where I could do the same thing for the same pay on a smaller jet. The idea that this would allow everyone to have a choice may look good at first pass, but all it will do after a few bid cycles is push the junior guys towards the jets that have the undersirable reserve system.
If this is in fact a proposal, I would be curious to see what Alaska reserve rules look like and if the proposed rules mirror them.
What this will do is create a phenomenon of the reserve percentages in the bigger jets going really junior. What it will end up doing is allowing new hires to flying the large jets for the same pay with worse work rules. See it as kind of a "B" scale of sorts.
Guys like me would avoid reserve on one jet where I could do the same thing for the same pay on a smaller jet. The idea that this would allow everyone to have a choice may look good at first pass, but all it will do after a few bid cycles is push the junior guys towards the jets that have the undersirable reserve system.
If this is in fact a proposal, I would be curious to see what Alaska reserve rules look like and if the proposed rules mirror them.
11-08-2010, 11:38 AM
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I should have added to my previous post that the logic that "everyone in categories other than those listed is on reserve by choice" is flawed.
Denny
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