chuck416

Hi DAL88Driver,
Thanks for the reply. It looks like I obliged the company 14 minutes. And I'm not complaining about ANY of this. Like I said, I live in base, and would not/won't change anything about my plans today (unless i get called out, of course). I don't mind helping a guy out (OR my company) from time-to-time. But if I'm being taken advantage of, I at least like to know it. It doesn't look like the company was "mis-behaving". And again, it wouldn't much matter if they were. I just like to know where I stand in the matter. Thanks guys, you've answered my questions. Happy flying, all.
Chuck

chuck416

It does kinda take the sting out when they ask (tell) so nicely though Much better than the fishing expeditions that NWA crew skeds would go on the night before your first day of reserve. I would have to turn my phone off until midnight because they called so often trying to tag me with a trip. Gotta love the southern manners.[/QUOTE]

Man, ain't that the truth. A lot of the schedulers were really nice to talk to. But occasionally, there was this one lady (can't remember her name), and she'd nearly always talk to me like I was her ex-husband or something. No kiddin' there was absolutely no getting along with her. At all. By contrast, the DAL schedulers have been--to a man (or lady)--completely polite, professional, and very helpful. It's always a pleasant conversation. Even when called out and I'd have plans, the conversations I've had w/ DAL crew skds were never anything other than pleasant. Great group. Thanks again for the reply, all.
Chuck

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Decertified.

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TOGA LK

in contrast though, at NWA a pilot could use his seniority to bid specific RAPs and/or longcall. Here, if you want a late first day RAP you almost have to yellow slip and that will surely guarantee you shortcall in lieu of longcall. preference nothing and you'll more than likey get the o'dark thirty RAP. everything at an airline should be seniority based, the concept of leaving your QOL in the hands of schedulers is a huge concession.

lastly, under the old system you were under no obligation to even answer your phone on a day off or during rest. the 12-hour clock started from midnight base time on your first day of availabilty and after the completion of FAA mandated rest. in a nut shell, your 12-hour clock started only when you were obligated to answer the phone. at delta, the obligation starts when they put something on your line, whether you have acknowledged it or not. nwa could fish around, send you txt msgs, leave voice mails and emails, but if you were on a day off or in rest there was no obligation to answer. with no obligation to answer, the 12 hour clock couldnt be started.

the only benefit I've found in this system is the auto release last day at noon, but from my understanding, that LOA only applies if you are on longcall or on shortcall going into Golden days.

ronnie75

Chuck,
The most correct answer is that they could have put you on short call at 0544 (attempted contact 1944). 10 hours. 0730 is outside this window. The scheduler was saying "help out" because he was giving such late notice and being polite. I've seen this.

ronnie75

TOGA LK,
Did NWA have long call/short call? I thought with the RAPs you had one everyday of reserve (like AA).

edit: oops see in your post that a pilot could bid long call. I didnt' know NWA had that.

chuck416

Thanks for the chime-in Ronnie. I couldn't agree more as to the polite demeanor of our crew schedulers.
chuck

Denny Crane

Thanks 1234!

Denny

Superpilot92

Anyone cups bid longcall but the senior guy bidding it got it. So if you were senior on reserve you could sit longcall all month while the junior guys sat shortcall all month. You also bid on the wrap times if you cared. Both systems had their pluses and minus's and now we need to take all the pluses and make the current system better.

reddog25

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