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Old 11-15-2010, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
Does anyone know what Alaska's seat cutoff is with regard to scope? In other words is there anything to keep, say, Pinnacle from flying E-195s for Alaska and carrying DAL passengers through the codeshare?

86 seats per segment.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:40 AM
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86 seats per segment.
Ahhh.. yet another scope loophole.
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Old 11-15-2010, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
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I'm sure it's going around the 737 fleet... "hey you flown with the moron that is building a model railroad?"

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FmrFreightDog View Post
Does anyone know what Alaska's seat cutoff is with regard to scope? In other words is there anything to keep, say, Pinnacle from flying E-195s for Alaska and carrying DAL passengers through the codeshare?
Horizon is already doing Q400 and RJ7 codeshare flying for Delta through the AS codeshare...

The limit is 50% or 86-seat cap, whichever comes first...
(FWIW AS 737-900 = 172 seats, 50% of 172 = 86)

If Pinnacle put 110 seats in that jet, DL could sell 55 seats average/month through the codeshare, depending on how the arrangement is structured.

AS can do 25% of hub-hub flying vs 6% for DCI
Non-hub AS codeshare flying is unlimited...

If you're worried about scope, the RJ scope issue is yesterday's news.
Looking forward it's mainline scope we need to worry about, and the definition of what Delta is:

-A holding company?
-A large-jet provider?
-A SkyTeam JV partner?
-An Airline?

Not trying to start anything here but this is coming and we better be prepared...

Just look at Air Lingus/United and Openskies/BA...some scary stuff going on already.
What if we "win" the RJ scope and end up all flying feed for say Jet Airways widebodies, what then?

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Old 11-15-2010, 08:19 AM
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George;
I agree 100%. We have a lot of roofing to nail down.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:27 AM
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I think QX CRJ700's are all gone. As a matter of fact ASA picked one up. I see it in ATL all the time. Horizon is transitioning to an all Q400 fleet.
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg View Post

Just look at Air Lingus/United and Openskies/BA...some scary stuff going on already.
What if we "win" the RJ scope and end up all flying feed for say Jet Airways widebodies, what then?

Cheers
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This scares me 10 times more than RJ scope!
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot View Post
George;
I agree 100%. We have a lot of roofing to nail down.
let's hope we get the right hammer ;-)

Cheers
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Old 11-15-2010, 08:38 AM
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Hey guys, thought I would check with the masters at APC before anything else!!

Got rerouted into Golden day...what are my best options to bargain for when I call skeds today? I heard there are 3 different scenarios...??

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Someone is fighting back against TSA.

N.J. lawmakers to announce opposition to full-body scanning at airports | NJ.com
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