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Old 03-17-2011 | 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
As I have said DAL is saving cash where they can, but this is rumor. The one thing that appears not to be effected is cabin mods. If anything the Mod lines will go up in an effort to get the fleet done sooner.

If the cabin mods are done on schedule or accelerated then they are keeping the aircraft. If they are canceled then its bad news. Very bad news.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Question for the folks who live here: I stumbled into this forum and thread when googling for what a white slip was, and most google searches seem to lead here... But I do see a lot of you guys posting in other threads I've just started looking at.

Is there another good forum or place where guys post about flying for Delta, schedules, rumors, etc., but without the 95% union/anti-union posts? No offense, I'm just looking for a place to learn and enjoy, but all this constant bickering is a real downer... I'd end up hanging myself in a month if I kept reading all of it, or a month ago if it weren't for FTB's artistic skills. Any recommendations for a Delta pilots place slightly toned down?
Just about every forum is dominated by the same few people, including the DALPA forum. So no there is no good place to go. On the DALPA forum, one guys made a post that was basically, "Have a nice day". It took about 5 posts before it became a food fight.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:02 AM
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Old 03-17-2011 | 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by sailingfun
Depending on what happens at NRT and the price of fuel there are some scary discussions going on about the 747 fleet plan. Rumor is all interior mods are on hold. Thats not good news.
It looks like a lot of IT improvements are being put on hold also.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iceman49
It looks like a lot of IT improvements are being put on hold also.
Yep, it appears we are hoarding cash. It could be a very simple reason, or it might not be.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Just about every forum is dominated by the same few people, including the DALPA forum. So no there is no good place to go. On the DALPA forum, one guys made a post that was basically, "Have a nice day". It took about 5 posts before it became a food fight.

The big advantage of the DALPA forum is that in the contract and scheduling sections the answers are QA'd. That is not the case here and bad info is posted all the time on here when people ask those types questions. If you have any scheduling, contract type questions I would post them on the DALPA site to insure you get correct information.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:24 AM
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The U.S. authorized the first evacuations of Americans out of Japan and warned U.S. citizens to defer all non-essential travel to any part of the country as unpredictable weather and wind conditions risked spreading radioactive contamination.
The State Department said the government had chartered aircraft to help Americans leave Japan and had authorized the voluntary departure of family members of diplomatic staff in Tokyo, Nagoya and Yokohama — about 600 people.
Diplomatic dependents have not been ordered to leave, but the State Department will bear the expense of their transportation if they choose to go, NBC News reported.
Also, the U.S. military is drafting plans for voluntary evacuations of military families and dependents from several bases in Japan. NBC said the order to start the process had not been given yet, but was likely to come Thursday.
The four military installations where dependents could begin evacuating within the next 24 hours are the naval bases at Yokosuka and Atsugi, Misawa Air Base in northern Japan and Camp Zama, an army base near Tokyo.
Charter flights would go to safe havens, including South Korea.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Do not put words in my mouth! I never said that I do not see Brian Bedford and his pack of pilots willing to accept lower wages to take our flying as a non-threat. Stating what is allowed in the contract is a far cry away from saying that I like what Delta and F9 are doing. I would like nothing more than to see BB's little Master's Degree project liquidate.

What I have been hashing, once again on here, is that yes, we may not like what DAL is doing with F9 with adding flying to their certificate, there is nothing illegal about it. Changing the structure of their corporation will cause DALPA to press to test on this issue, and I would like to see nothing more. That said, unless something changes, sadly, it is nothing new, and something that has been going on for quite some time.

All of the anger is great, but all it is doing is creating heat. What it needs to be doing is creating movement and leverage for our union to get the wording changed in the PWA.


Also remember that DAL made this bed, and it is good from our perspective to see them twist in the wind from it. They will learn from it. In the end that helps us to do what needs to be done, not what should have been done. Look forward, and change what we can today and tomorrow.
Sorry for the low blow. Don't mean to create heat without a purpose. I just keep hearing that Delta wants to get out of the RJ business and this seems like a good oportunity for them to trim some of that fat.

Sounds like most guys would rather talk about underboob.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
TSquare is right on the mark. Unless you are wearing the right class ring, or were in the right squadron, you ain't getting on any committee other than as the toilet scrubber, and probably not even that.

Notice that the only people that are trying to change anything are elected LEC reps...NOT by anyone in the appointed committees, which is to say almost all of them.

I VASTLY preferred the fNWALPA committee structure. The very nature of the MEC/LEC/Committee membership ensured that there was at least one different viewpoint on the committee.

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Your characterization of how people are chosen is completely off the mark. There are two big hurdles that I see with people that are new volunteers to ALPA. First, at Delta you should expect that when you step into that office your workload will be double what you had as a line pilot. Some are not used to those kinds of demands and walk away. It can be stressful on your family too. The joke is that AIDS stands for ALPA Induced Divorce Syndrome, and like most jokes there is some basis in reality. You need to work this out with your family ahead of time.

Second, when you walk into the office, you should not expect to run the show. Some pilots walk in and start making demands about how things should work. Often these demands are based on the same webboard bravado that has no basis in reality. Those pilots often walk away in a huff because they expected to be the boss on day one.

If you want to really do ALPA work, you should get ready to roll up your sleeves and get down to work. You should also spend a few months listening, learning and asking questions. After you have spent some time learning the complexity of issues, then you will be ready to make suggestions about how to best accomplish the tasks you have been assigned by the MEC. If you are successful in adding to the debates, you will find more responsibility and have a chance to shape the direction of the union to a greater degree. We have a hierarchical organization and you are not going to be boss on day one.

People that are unable to overcome those two obstacles will not spend a lot of time working there. Many people that have done or are doing union work, like I used to, started off full of p!ss and vinegar and thought, "if they only listened to me, everything would be fixed tomorrow". Eventually, I saw that I didn't have all the answers, the issues were complicated and I wasn't the only one with ideas. That is how you make a difference. I didn't have a class ring, I wasn't in anyone's squadron, just did the work and became part of the team.

It's open to anyone and I encourage you young folks to step up. I having too much fun flying right now to do it again full time. Your turn.
Old 03-17-2011 | 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Sorry for the low blow. Don't mean to create heat without a purpose. I just keep hearing that Delta wants to get out of the RJ business and this seems like a good oportunity for them to trim some of that fat.

Sounds like most guys would rather talk about underboob.
Hey, underboob is good, my wife likes those juvenile acts

It is apparent when they stated they wanted to get out of the RJ business, they meant owning them, not flying them

As I have said, most of the RJ flying terminates by 2020, and Pinnacle's new contract in 2022. Go look on the 10K. The number of RJ's gets paired down quite quickly in the latter half of the decade. To solve the issue, we just need to hold firm at a min, with a commitment from the company to not write new agreements, or modify or extend the existing ones. That alone solves the issue. These current RJ's are going to be obsolete when the new gen stuff like the C-Series arrives. The CASM on these RJ's will kill em.
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