Well I couldn't use pictures of this year's Iron Bowl. BTW, you have been surprisingly mute in your razzing me about the game. I expected many more jokes at my expense.

 

More Fairley? You got it.



I should return to the sports forums I know. Speed typing trash talkin' to the fine folks from Athens. Although my wife did go there. I should find a picture to honor that... but I just keep finding these pictures of that mascot. You know it was one thing for Bama to be hung up on finding a Bear Bryant player turned coach, it's another to be hung up on inbreeding a dog until they go from bulldog to just a tub of white goo that can't live more than 2 years.

 

Inbreeding? In Georgia? nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


I AM BRUCE!

 

Nu never said that or implied it. This is the method used by Delta south guys to get us northies to stop talking about improvements to the perfect airline. Perfect because that's what Delta told you in indoc.

See how irritating it is when someone just makes up a characterization?

Carl

 

No, not really. With longevity-based pay, you wouldn't see senior pilots packed in senior categories. They would be more evenly distributed.

If the company had to furlough, the F/O's would already be set to go. The junior Captains forced back down would distribute evenly across the former F/O spots. I'm not even sure they would need to be trained at all. I haven't spoken about the senior-most Captains yet, but these would not all be on one fleet, so they would hang in there, undisturbed, and not making waves for the company. So DAL could take a slow and measured approach to displacing only the junior-most captains, which would be conveniently parked at the bottom of each A category. And since senior pilots wouldn't populate any particular fleet, the loss of one entire fleet, even the most senior, wouldn't even need to be weighed by the company against large displacements either.

You've actually built the perfect cascade-less, flexible, scaleable, shrinkeable airline.

Congratulations.

 

Not trying to build a scalable, shrinkable airline.. just trying to build in protections in the event that it does happen, and also to build in QOL without having to sacrifice money. IF the 747s get parked... how many guys will take a paycut? I'm tired of arguing this with closed minded people.

 

Well, I'm just trying to show everyone the professionalism that we Auburn and Alabama fans do actually show each other despite the Al from Dadeville's of the world and that guy with the radio show in HSV.

But, if you insist



This is a good article actually. It's one of those things you tell a kid to never stop playing. It's about Antoine Carter, a Auburn d-lineman, doing the improbable in chasing down the reigning Heisman winner Mark Ingram and causing him to fumble to save the game and the national championship hopes for Auburn. He didn't have to try given Alabama was destroying Auburn and was up 24-0 and Ingram was about to make it 31-0. But the 258 lb Carter standing probably 15 yards behind Ingram who was already running down hill tried anyways. And it worked.

Hustle*pays off as Auburn tops Alabama in epic Iron Bowl - Andy Staples - SI.com

 

I am sooooo glad I missed watching that game...

 

Just keep in kind that a pay scale based purely on longevity puts you at risk for being bumped of the Boeing WB to possibly a............Airbus.

I'm just screwing with ya t.

 

The protections exist already, and they are the best kinds of protections of all, because they involve greenbacks rather than contractual terms: the company can't reduce flying across all fleets, or eliminate a senior fleet right now, at least not in a cost-effective way. That's not because the contract prevents it (they know how to get around that), but because of where the senior pilots are concentrated.

I'm sure you'd be the frst to argue NFC's are not worth the paper they're printed on, so the better protections are always financial or physical limitiations placed on the company. If they have to train everyone in huge cascade events because people are displacing to a different airplane, they have a serious incentive not to reduce/furlough without a long-term payback. I don't know what contractual protections you would wish to add, but these cannot trump the limitations that would be recognized by the company's own bean-counters.

So I think you're tired of arguing this because you've just found the perfect argument against longevity pay, and you're stuck. I hadn't even thought of it beforehand: longevity pay is the perfect way to ensure easy, smooth, economical reductions in flying.