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Old 03-16-2011, 03:17 PM
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The US government has extended the evacuation zone around the Japanese reactors to 50 miles. Not that all this talk of Section 1 and JVs isn't absolutely fascinating, but our futures may lie in the hands of an event completely out of our control.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:17 PM
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But nothing about the really big, most important items. We still haven't set any kind of objective with regard to restoration of our profession and our careers. Resolutions to get mid-contract partial pay restoration are ignored (excuse me, "received"). And input to the same effect is responded to with, "what are you willing to give up to get that?" I'll give you that some things are changing for the positive. But I still think our expectations are being managed, our input on restoration ignored, and essentially the same old playbook is being run. Like I said before, at least on the big ticket items... SSDD. From what I'm seeing, I'm not optimistic. Wish I could be.

Perhaps DALPA is waiting to see what UAL/CAL & AA get? Maybe waiting to see if UsAir's snap back clause goes in to effect? If those groups better our rates, we are in a better position to ask for restoration.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:19 PM
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The US government has extended the evacuation zone around the Japanese reactors to 50 miles. Not that all this talk of Section 1 and JVs isn't absolutely fascinating, but our futures may lie in the hands of an event completely out of our control.
Sounds like a typical day in the airline biz.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:33 PM
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The US government has extended the evacuation zone around the Japanese reactors to 50 miles. Not that all this talk of Section 1 and JVs isn't absolutely fascinating, but our futures may lie in the hands of an event completely out of our control.
Indeed-an interesting read is of the Chernobyl disaster. Many firefighters and engineers died of radiation poisoning within weeks after the explosion. The neighboring town was evacuated the next day April 2, 1986 and has been fenced off since. Pretty scary stuff.

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Old 03-16-2011, 03:40 PM
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Perhaps DALPA is waiting to see what UAL/CAL & AA get? Maybe waiting to see if UsAir's snap back clause goes in to effect? If those groups better our rates, we are in a better position to ask for restoration.
This kind of thinking is a big part of what I think is wrong with DALPA. No successful company or organization achieves anything difficult and significant by sitting back and waiting to see what someone else does. That's ridiculous. We shouldn't be pinning our hopes to "pattern bargaining." We should be clearly defining our objective and going for it with everything we've got and with a sense of urgency. We have a lot of ground to make up. And we've been out of BK for almost half a decade! When do we start??
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:44 PM
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Indeed-an interesting read is of the Chernobyl disaster. Many firefighters and engineers died of radiation poisoning within weeks after the explosion. The neighboring town was evacuated the next day April 2, 1986 and has been fenced off since. Pretty scary stuff.

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The big difference is that the russians didn't have the containment mechanisms in place like these reactors do.

As far as our futures being out of our hands in this career... let's see: oil fluctuations, global economic fluctuations, bird flu, pig flu, chipmunk flu, spotted squirrel pnuemonia, SARS, 9/11, and you name it, that's what we've signed up for in this industry.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:48 PM
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The big difference is that the russians didn't have the containment mechanisms in place like these reactors do.

As far as our futures being out of our hands in this career... let's see: oil fluctuations, global economic fluctuations, bird flu, pig flu, chipmunk flu, spotted squirrel pnuemonia, SARS, 9/11, and you name it, that's what we've signed up for in this industry.
You forgot wallst greeditis, aka Virginitis.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:52 PM
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The US government has extended the evacuation zone around the Japanese reactors to 50 miles. Not that all this talk of Section 1 and JVs isn't absolutely fascinating, but our futures may lie in the hands of an event completely out of our control.
In the near term, yes, this will effect that 5% of our operation.

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Old 03-16-2011, 04:21 PM
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In the short term, yes, this will effect that 5% of our operation.
I'm actually not that concerned about the Pacific operation, per se. Tokyo is a long way from Sendai. The bigger concern is the overall impact on the Japanese economy, depending on the severity of the incident. The US NRC is already voicing serious concerns about a "China Syndrome" type meltdown of the expended fuel depository. That may have long term implications for DAL, in particular. There is also the impact on the overall US economy if Japan heads south.

I'm not big fan of worrying about things you cannot control; it's pointless. It's really just a waiting game for now. Regardless, we still have Lagos.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:27 PM
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I'm actually not that concerned about the Pacific operation, per se. Tokyo is a long way from Sendai. The bigger concern is the overall impact on the Japanese economy, depending on the severity of the incident. The US NRC is already voicing serious concerns about a "China Syndrome" type meltdown of the expended fuel depository. That may have long term implications for DAL, in particular. There is also the impact on the overall US economy if Japan heads south.

I'm not big fan of worrying about things you cannot control; it's pointless. It's really just a waiting game for now. Regardless, we still have Lagos.
Oh Lagos is so much fun. Japan will recover, they are a resilient people. We will help, but the recovery will be costly. That is good and bad.
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