No, thank you I don't text. I think that we need to verify compliance at least on a monthly basis... We are after all trusting the alpa guys and management to ensure that these super secret agreements are being adhered to, a yearly report is nowhere near enough.

Let's say ACL is right, and we have two guys that get the text messages contiuously, because they're younger than you, and they have the technolgy... In that case, whenever there is a MEC meeting, it could be standard practice for the reps to come back and give us confirmation we're in compliance. That would be plenty. I don't need a full report at monthly intervals.

03-16-2011 | 12:13 PM

#61802

scambo1

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

We have two guys monitoring Domestic and International Code Share Compliance for the MEC. One has been there a while and the other one is a very smart and capable 2001 hire who I have a ton of respect for. Simply put, I trust em to do their jobs.

So, which one of them DISCOVERED the increased gross weight issue?

03-16-2011 | 12:17 PM

#61803

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by Sink r8

Let's say ACL is right, and we have two guys that get the text messages continuously, because they're younger than you, and they have the technology... In that case, whenever there is a MEC meeting, it could be standard practice for the reps to come back and give us confirmation we're in compliance. That would be plenty. I don't need a full report at monthly intervals.

Yeah I guess that could be fine... but... we should have a report available should we wish to check the checkers. I'm not paranoid. believe me, but I have seen enough crappy contracts side letters, and "trust mes" around here that I think transparency should be paramount. And availability of information is part of that transparency. Personally, I would probably never look at it, but there are plenty of guys that would. I mean think about it. Do you know ANYBODY that looks at all that garbage in the front of the bid package.. let alone know what it all means? But at least the information is there...

03-16-2011 | 12:23 PM

#61804

TenYearsGone

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Hey ER guys and gals;

Notice the new airports that we have pictorial SAQ for?

HHHMMMMMMMM...Interesting..Borat would be pleased.

TYG

03-16-2011 | 12:30 PM

#61805

DAL 88 Driver

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Now you are seeing things. I just answered a question, and I am sorry to report, as much as it would suit you, I have no agenda expect to see us unify under ALPA. Why? Because long term it is in our best interests. No more, no less.

I agree that unity is a very important part of the equation (although definitely not the only part). But that brings me right back to the point I was making in my post that prompted the 'if you're so smart, why don't you run for office' question:

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

Having the structure in place isn't enough. It has to be used effectively to be of any value. You aren't going to get the kind of unity you're looking for with weak leadership and a lack of any real, compelling objective. DAL management went for the throat and tried to destroy our careers during BK. And now that the BK/emergency has been over for several years, they refuse to even lift a finger to try and make it right. Even worse, DALPA refuses to so much as ASK them to make it right. Unity will fall into place nicely when it is clear that we can rally around the objective of correcting this. But it ain't gonna happen with Lee Moak type leaders and with people like yourself, who rationalize every excuse they can find not to fight for it.

03-16-2011 | 12:31 PM

#61806

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

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Originally Posted by Sink r8

FWIW, they do give a report to the MEC Council on compliance.

03-16-2011 | 12:34 PM

#61807

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

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Originally Posted by scambo1

So, which one of them DISCOVERED the increased gross weight issue?

The Chairman. They were working the issue when a few of us brought pictures to them. No kidding..

03-16-2011 | 12:36 PM

#61808

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver

DAL88, and that is why I see all of these issues as personnel issues and not a ALPA structure issue. The overall structure of ALPA is just fine, and for those items that need changing, there is a mechanism in place.

03-16-2011 | 12:37 PM

#61809

acl65pilot

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From: A-320A

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone

HHHMMMMMMMM...Interesting..Borat would be pleased.

TYG

To say the least. Lots of horse meat served in those parts.

03-16-2011 | 12:42 PM

#61810

tsquare

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From: 767er Captain

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

To say the least. Lots of horse meat served in those parts.

I have already seen plates for Paris...

They are divert fields.. nothing to see here except that one is listed.. (I think)... as a recurring charter flight...