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Old 11-06-2010 | 06:17 PM
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Is it time yet?






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Old 11-06-2010 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by shiznit
I've been hoping that consolidation would lead to the elimination of these ticket "clearinghouses". SWA never participated and they did just fine.....Oddly enough, I think Orbitz was initially created by an investment from a couple of the legacy carriers.

I bet AA settles the dispute somehow, but it could be signaling a shift in the future of ticket sales.

If they stick with it, I could see DAL and UAL eventually following suit.
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We need to get away from this stuff. It is what made the margins fall though the floor. DAL threw start up money at one of these about a decade or so ago too.
Old 11-06-2010 | 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
I've talked to several in person. The "rumor mill" had lots of stuff, most of it unverifiable BY ME.

RA got really ****ed about OSS/FPS after a transpac cancellation due to FPS unable to generate a suitable flt plan. *RUMOR*

RA said in a meeting that he wants OSS replaced in 18 months and FPS along with it. Vendors mentioned Jepp, HP, Lido and one other (GE?) *RUMOR*

Dispatchers can no longer see your actual fuel load on their screen under OSS.

Dispatchers no longer are told why you are delayed at the gate prior to push. Verified when I sent a courtesy msg to dispatch telling him we were still unloading cargo 25 mins after sked. He responded Thanks.. we were wondering why you were still at the gate...

A330 seems to be a big problem for FPS, especially when it comes to Alt, cruise mach, cost index, critical terrain routes, fuel burn (going westbound) and more. *SPECULATION*

We are still paying for Jepp Flight planning, so its possible to get a Jepp flight plan if you have a dispatcher that remembers how to use it. Not sure if we will have Jepp past the end of this year.

You can get new flight plan fuel burn numbers on a re-route in WIDE format on the ACARS printer by requesting FPS Wide in a text msg to dispatch. Much easier to read if your aircraft has a wide printer. Plan on printing a LOT of pages...

You can also get ACARS22 fuel summary which is a much shorter/narrower version, but doesn't have much on it other than fuel burns.

It seems to me the big difference between pre and post merger dispatch is pre-merger they were Operations Control, they had lots of information available to them and could use it to plan ahead for contingencies that the flight crew might not be aware of. Post merger they have been relegated to "mushroom" mode. I feel sorry for them because they really can't do much without expending a lot of extra effort just to squeeze data or cooperation out of the appropriate places.

You can get sports scores for your passengers by sending an ACARS message to ATL Radio at a specific TTY address (not posting it here). fNW aircraft do NOT have the Scores template built into ACARS.

They should rename OCC to something more accurate until we get OSS replaced and the bugs worked out.

Now, request for info. Is the person that wrote FPS still at DAL? Is he/she still in charge of FPS? Is he/she getting royalties from DAL using FPS?
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Old 11-06-2010 | 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
How did we ever fly airplanes until you came along to show us how?
Must you always make such a fool of yourself?

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Old 11-06-2010 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
How did we ever fly airplanes until you came along to show us how?
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Must you always make such a fool of yourself?


Carl

It's kinda a fair question. Everything Nosmo listed as a problem never happened before the merger. How come it worked fine before but now seems broke? After all, IT is now run by xNWA people and they were the ones who mashed the systems together.
Old 11-06-2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
I'm was assuming that he was going to qualification training not CQ. Section 4.C exception 4 applies to the days prior to going to qual training (pro rata portion of the ALV). I believe this section applies once he is in qual training (Sec 11.B):

B. Pay and Credit
1. Qualification Training
a. A regular pilot, while assigned to qualification training:
1) will be paid and credited the greater of (or at his option, on a bid period to bid
period basis, either of):
a) rotations removed during periods of continuous training to:
i. accommodate travel between his base and his training location when such
training is conducted away from his base, and/or
ii. accommodate such training, and/or
iii. eliminate an FAR or PWA conflict that arises because of such training,
or
b) pro rata portion of the ALV at the rate of the highest paying aircraft model
shown on his line for each training day.

This is why I said he should get paid the ALV for the month.

Denny

Good One. I misread the contract. Thanks!
Old 11-06-2010 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
It's kinda a fair question. Everything Nosmo listed as a problem never happened before the merger. How come it worked fine before but now seems broke? After all, IT is now run by xNWA people and they were the ones who mashed the systems together.
Because now it's broken. Not my opinion, it's the opinion of upper management as they struggle with procedures to help our current problem of on-time arrivals, fuel overburns, large fuel underburns resulting in carrying too much fuel and not enough payload (emphasis on "pay"), etc.

Our management is struggling to find solutions. Nosmo is offering some up...as is a lot of us former NWA guys. I'm pleased to hear that management might be listening - despite your seeming desire to stay with the way it's always been done.

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Old 11-06-2010 | 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
Because now it's broken. Not my opinion, it's the opinion of upper management as they struggle with procedures to help our current problem of on-time arrivals, fuel overburns, large fuel underburns resulting in carrying too much fuel and not enough payload (emphasis on "pay"), etc.

Our management is struggling to find solutions. Nosmo is offering some up...as is a lot of us former NWA guys. I'm pleased to hear that management might be listening - despite your seeming desire to stay with the way it's always been done.

Carl

You started in the right direction, and strayed off course. I think most of the questions come from how something that worked so well and so efficiently all of a sudden doesn't work well anymore.

I believe the answer lies more in the integration fumbling than in the actual program itself. We've got stuff that works great with the square peg. Ya'll use a circle peg. They both worked great. Now we're trying to take said square peg and put it in the circular hole. Similar would have happened for vice versa.

Regardless, let's not go down that idiotic road again and look ahead to the future to the next gen technology that is coming. It's assinine to continue to argue the merits of either.
Old 11-06-2010 | 07:54 PM
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Lots of airlines flew to lots of places using several systems.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm excited about getting things better than any of us had premerger. Life and work get easier..........the company makes money so we all make more money.
Old 11-06-2010 | 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Ferd149
Lots of airlines flew to lots of places using several systems.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm excited about getting things better than any of us had premerger. Life and work get easier..........the company makes money so we all make more money.

Spot on, Ferd! Flew in and out of DTW all this trip... sure brought back a lot of memories. I wonder why we don't have the nice boarding screens up there yet.
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