Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-16-2011 | 11:49 AM
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Maybe we should have a yearly report on what % of our (Delta and Skyteam) flying we're doing each year, which would cover scope at the lower and upper end, and confirmation it's all in agreement with our contract and the JV agreements. If delivery methods are a problem, even a yearly oral presentation at LEC meetings (for those that can be troubled to attend) would suffice.
I think 44 is doing something like this, so it may be as simple as importing it to 66.
03-16-2011 | 11:50 AM
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The aspect that bothers me a lot is that they carry passengers between the US and Europe. If they were to add a lot of Indian feed, however, and India-EU and India-US traffic increased as a result, then it could be mutually advantageous, depending on how the long-haul flying was distributed. Furthermore, if you are correct about the 777-300's, and a snapshot could be set at an appropriate date, with appropriate restrictions going forward, even the EU-US flight, in proper proportion, might be acceptable. I think we agree that the consequences of a good or poor JV agreement are significant. And ultimately, regardless of the virtues of any particular agreement with a new JV/SkyTeam partner, the fact remains that each addition makes any single pilot group less relevant.
I have strong opinions about JV's and Code Shares, and agree, we need to have thumbs up or down approval on all of em.
03-16-2011 | 11:52 AM
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Now you are seeing things. I just answered a question, and I am sorry to report, as much as it would suit you, I have no agenda expect to see us unify under ALPA. Why? Because long term it is in our best interests. No more, no less.
03-16-2011 | 11:55 AM
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Hey ER guys and gals;
Notice the new airports that we have pictorial SAQ for?
Notice the new airports that we have pictorial SAQ for?
03-16-2011 | 11:55 AM
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ACL,
Think of it as a public conversation. If 88 says something to someone else, and you answer it, you end up looking like a smart-a$$. If gets irate because you did, and expects you not to participate in the conversation, he looks foolish.
Minus one man-point for each team. We shake hands. Next round.
Think of it as a public conversation. If 88 says something to someone else, and you answer it, you end up looking like a smart-a$$. If gets irate because you did, and expects you not to participate in the conversation, he looks foolish.
Minus one man-point for each team. We shake hands. Next round.
03-16-2011 | 11:57 AM
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I don't guess the rest of have any choice.
03-16-2011 | 11:58 AM
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we're so deep in these nda/hush-hush kinds of agreements, that it's very difficult to even understand whether or not they're favorable, or even acceptable. I get vague but enthusuastic reassurances when i ask my reps (i haven't asked the new reps yet), but i don't know.
Maybe we should have a yearly report on what % of our (delta and skyteam) flying we're doing each year, which would cover scope at the lower and upper end, and confirmation it's all in agreement with our contract and the jv agreements. If delivery methods are a problem, even a yearly oral presentation at lec meetings (for those that can be troubled to attend) would suffice.
I think 44 is doing something like this, so it may be as simple as importing it to 66.
Maybe we should have a yearly report on what % of our (delta and skyteam) flying we're doing each year, which would cover scope at the lower and upper end, and confirmation it's all in agreement with our contract and the jv agreements. If delivery methods are a problem, even a yearly oral presentation at lec meetings (for those that can be troubled to attend) would suffice.
I think 44 is doing something like this, so it may be as simple as importing it to 66.
03-16-2011 | 12:01 PM
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Yeah, yearly. You want a text message when an RJ takes off or lands?
03-16-2011 | 12:02 PM
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Acl,
You seem to be taking a beating on here nowadays. You have to understand that no one on here is afraid of interacting with the union to make things better. Many of us have tried, some have succeeded, others have chosen to find other ways to advance our profession.
Our problem is that the positions you state seem to mirror the positions of the union and we don't like them. As pilots, we hate inaction in the face of a perceived wrong. We hate the notion of just giving up and accepting things without a fight.
How is it that you and the union can predetermine what a neutral third party might determine? How is it that you know that the K Admin will lay out the case with the lawyers, give me the facts, and then somehow maybe I will understand why it is the way it is?
It just seems that things are a little too "predetermined" around here.
If things are they way they are, and many Delta pilots don't like the way it is, then it's time to find a way to change how we operate.
You seem to be taking a beating on here nowadays. You have to understand that no one on here is afraid of interacting with the union to make things better. Many of us have tried, some have succeeded, others have chosen to find other ways to advance our profession.
Our problem is that the positions you state seem to mirror the positions of the union and we don't like them. As pilots, we hate inaction in the face of a perceived wrong. We hate the notion of just giving up and accepting things without a fight.
How is it that you and the union can predetermine what a neutral third party might determine? How is it that you know that the K Admin will lay out the case with the lawyers, give me the facts, and then somehow maybe I will understand why it is the way it is?
It just seems that things are a little too "predetermined" around here.
If things are they way they are, and many Delta pilots don't like the way it is, then it's time to find a way to change how we operate.
And this is why there is only one NewK
As far as ACL taking a beating, it seems to be a beating that he wants to take, not one that anyone is inflicting on him.
03-16-2011 | 12:06 PM
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No, thank you I don't text. I think that we need to verify compliance at least on a monthly basis... We are after all trusting the alpa guys and management to ensure that these super secret agreements are being adhered to, a yearly report is nowhere near enough.
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