Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
10-25-2010, 05:42 PM
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So we're buying our own aircraft back and reducing our overheads, that sucks. They're not big enough now, why reduce them?
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10-25-2010, 05:51 PM
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No FtB, it means that we are really reducing our debt service and interest payments. It means we are becoming lean, very lean.
10-25-2010, 05:52 PM
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Didn't we reduce our overhead and slim down in the period before we announced the NWA merger?
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10-25-2010, 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I think AMR looked into redoing the engines on their 80 series and it is cost prohibitive. One of the advantages I heard that the 9 fleet had, especially the 50, is that the engines are cheap and the planes are paid for so while they may not be as fuel efficient on a casm basis they are okay. If they were awful, we’d park them faster imho so there may be truth to that.
According to that one article from Flight Ops the 80 is somewhere around its half life in the fleet and could be here til 2020 or longer. I think a mod is worthwhile.
How do I say this in a PR friendly way, anyone who flies the 88 knows the life of an 88 engine. I’m sure they’d love to have more margin in temps on those engines. Let’s just say I heard that they have everyone whose job it is to monitor the fleet’s attention during the summer. I mean they do their job and do it well but of course a more efficient engine and maybe a FADEC addition would be great.
Now to me this Dugan Kinetics MD80 mod is one to watch, the one with a passive TR mod. Its listed below as EP80 and if you go to the site you’ll see it looks like one of those hush kids on an old GII or GIII:
Dugan Kinetics
What is the EP-80? It is a Dugan Kinetics modified thrust reverser for the MD-80 Series aircraft. The modified TR offers a new stow position, where the TR is used as an ejector during flight. By using the TR as an ejector, the operator receives additional thrust, while keeping aircraft weight constant.The added thrust translates into a total flight fuel savings in the range of 5-9%.The substantial fuel savings produced by the EP-80 Ejector/TR offers Operators a payback in as low as 12 months.
According to that one article from Flight Ops the 80 is somewhere around its half life in the fleet and could be here til 2020 or longer. I think a mod is worthwhile.
How do I say this in a PR friendly way, anyone who flies the 88 knows the life of an 88 engine. I’m sure they’d love to have more margin in temps on those engines. Let’s just say I heard that they have everyone whose job it is to monitor the fleet’s attention during the summer. I mean they do their job and do it well but of course a more efficient engine and maybe a FADEC addition would be great.
Now to me this Dugan Kinetics MD80 mod is one to watch, the one with a passive TR mod. Its listed below as EP80 and if you go to the site you’ll see it looks like one of those hush kids on an old GII or GIII:
Dugan Kinetics
What is the EP-80? It is a Dugan Kinetics modified thrust reverser for the MD-80 Series aircraft. The modified TR offers a new stow position, where the TR is used as an ejector during flight. By using the TR as an ejector, the operator receives additional thrust, while keeping aircraft weight constant.The added thrust translates into a total flight fuel savings in the range of 5-9%.The substantial fuel savings produced by the EP-80 Ejector/TR offers Operators a payback in as low as 12 months.
FTB, Thanks. It will be interesting to watch what each airline does during this transition phase from 2nd to 3rd generation aircraft. For my money, it seems like a mod would be worth it considering how many -88s you guys have and that while 737-800 are better, they are not truly "Next Gen" aircraft. Good luck!
-Jo
BTW, your photoshops crack me up.
10-25-2010, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Josephus
FTB, Thanks. It will be interesting to watch what each airline does during this transition phase from 2nd to 3rd generation aircraft. For my money, it seems like a mod would be worth it considering how many -88s you guys have and that while 737-800 are better, they are not truly "Next Gen" aircraft. Good luck!
-Jo
BTW, your photoshops crack me up.
-Jo
BTW, your photoshops crack me up.
I'm still patiently waiting for the opportunity to post this:
"Girls have it so easy, they never have to worry about getting anyone pregnant."
Might never get that chance but I've been sitting on it for months.
10-25-2010, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Josephus
FTB, Thanks. It will be interesting to watch what each airline does during this transition phase from 2nd to 3rd generation aircraft. For my money, it seems like a mod would be worth it considering how many -88s you guys have and that while 737-800 are better, they are not truly "Next Gen" aircraft. Good luck!
-Jo
BTW, your photoshops crack me up.
-Jo
BTW, your photoshops crack me up.
I hope I'm being objective when I say that still the best plane, optimized for the commercial short haul job is a turboprop - not a jet.
10-25-2010, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
10-25-2010, 06:58 PM
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Reducing your dept position does many things. Of course it would allow an outright acquisition if needed. It also allows lots of money to be put on A/C deposits.
10-25-2010, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabah
The 787 is a big pile of poo, plus it's not big enough.
10-25-2010, 07:00 PM
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Yep, the 787 is a point to point medium sized market jet. The 900 more so.
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