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slinky 09-16-2007 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 231769)
In a room full of guys wearing navy blue suits with white shirts and burgundy ties, do you want to be the one guy with a brown suit?

Sound wisdom.

mike734 09-16-2007 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 231769)
In a room full of guys wearing navy blue suits with white shirts and burgundy ties, do you want to be the one guy with a brown suit?

What has brown done for you?

Xray678 09-17-2007 05:24 AM


Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 231578)
But, Ma Delta is not getting rid of RJ's. They are allowed to increase in numbers 3 to 1 with the addition of each mainline aircraft. Delta flying will be more than 50% performed by contractors (if that is not already the case).


There is no limit on RJs. The 3 to1 you reference is for the 76 seaters. They can add three 76 seaters for every one mainline aircraft added. However, the limit on the combination of 70 and 76 seaters is 200.

I think the RJ50 is dead. I don't worry about them. So we do have a limit on effective RJs.

Having said that, I think our MEC will give up more 70 and 76 seaters next time around.

acl65pilot 09-17-2007 08:56 AM

I hope to god not. But as we speak Republic is putting the 170's on the UAL side and adding 175's to the DAL side. They will have 76 seats in them, but they are designed for near 90 seats with a first class section to boot. They currently are 500 lbs below the scope max with the current configuration. That said, it is a big jet that will take away your slot at DAL. Currently 60% of all DAL flying is DCI. If there is a bump to the scope limit, it will make all domestic short of a 737-800 and 757 DCI. Be careful what you wish for. Do you really want to fly that for the remainder of your career. I would prefer it to be my entry level jet at DAL, not my cap.

Xray678 09-17-2007 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 231971)
IIf there is a bump to the scope limit, it will make all domestic short of a 737-800 and 757 DCI. Be careful what you wish for. Do you really want to fly that for the remainder of your career. I would prefer it to be my entry level jet at DAL, not my cap.


You are correct. Any further bumps in scope will affect Delta pilot jobs. But it will happen, trust me. Give it a while, learn what you can about Lee Moak, Jim White,Tim Cannol and the other wussies in the MEC administration. It's coming. They will sell out the junior and future Delta pilots if they can get even one dollar an hour more for their 7ER seat.

acl65pilot 09-17-2007 12:05 PM

Funny thing is that those ER seat are going to new hires because the pay is not worth the sacrifices.

Xray678 09-17-2007 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 232052)
Funny thing is that those ER seat are going to new hires because the pay is not worth the sacrifices.

well, I said thier ER seat. They are all captains in ATL. My point is, they will sell out the junior pilots to serve their own interests. It happened on LOA 51 and it will happen again.

At a bare minimum, DALPA will cave on more 76 seaters. I have zero doubt about that. I fear they will allow outsourcing on a limited number of 100 seaters. And of course, the Delta pilot group, sheep that they are, will vote yes for anything the MEC puts in front of them.

Bucking Bar 09-17-2007 01:18 PM

Jeesh, that would make a good Delta career move into a nightmare scenario. Let us hope it does not happen.

For perspective, the current deal was negotiated knowing that bankruptcy could abrogate the entire contract. Mainline pilots are cost competitive on the 70 & up flying. They should hold the line, or move it towards Delta pilots doing a majority of Delta flying.

Split S 09-17-2007 03:47 PM

Any news on the bid assignments for today's new hire class?

acl65pilot 09-18-2007 03:58 AM

A mix of 7ER 767 M88 and 73N but the majority went to the wide bodies.


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