It makes you wonder if Delta says this publically imagine what they're saying behind closed doors? They've got to be frustrated with Boeing considering their needs and that Boeing is dragging its feet. Maybe it's like those mortgage commercials where the bank is shocked that they have to compete for their customers business? I guess since they gave us the 737 42 years ago, 747 40 years ago and 756 almost 30 years ago that they have the midas touch and can do no wrong?

 

makes you wonder if Embraer would jump on the hole Boeing and in a way Airbus is leaving and go for a 757 and smaller. Sort of like Bombardier did but go even bigger?

I mean just pick off Boeing and Airbus engineers and design it.

 

How about single pilot "growth" jets?

Hey, I guess Airbus could always look into a new wing on the 321?

 

I know the E60 is newer and has a more power (especially top end) but the E39 FTW all day long....sexy body and much more dependable engine

 

I'm tossing around going to this....just need a GS to help offset the cost

 

....and started putting them back in GT's July 2010 as a 2011 MY

 

That's what R compound tires are for
Sign me up for some trash talking, USAir kicking LeMon's racing!!

 

That's what happens when you forget about your own core-competencies and outsource the engineering to third parties...

I just hope this is a study and Boeing isn't serious about this:

(Look at the bulge for the lengthened gear to clear the large diameter fan of the GTF)

Cheers
George

 

Agree on the used jets, but I'm pretty sure that's a stopgap measure.
The EIS for the 320neo is 2016, the 321neo is probably not until 2017.
DAL has the worlds largest Airbus fleet right now, that makes it easy to get good pricing...

The 320neo family is a wet dream for a network guy who can mix and match planes and routes domestically.

The 757 ETOPs birds have a secure future as the 321neo cant even come close in range and falls short on passenger lift.

The old and new strategy served NW well and I'd imagine RA will stick with some of that...

I just hope were're not looking at trading in 7ER rates and replace them with our current 320 rates to fly the potential 757 trans-con replacement.

Right now is a good time to place orders and "get in on the ground floor when prices are low" then take delivery 6 years from now at a great discount...

Cheers
George

 

I like where your head's at...you always gotta be watching your six around the boardroom types and all that...but I seriously doubt a multibillion dollar decades long fleet planning decision will hinge on the roughly 15-20 bucks per hour differential in total flight crew costs between 7ER and 320 rates.

Maybe it would if everything else were exactly equal, or at least within that cost range, but I highly doubt that is the case.

As for the 320 NEO, I doubt Boeing will (or can) come up with much more than 15% more efficient than the existing 320. If they barely exceed that, Airbus still wins big by offering a likely still common fleet with existing 320's both now and during a long future phase out period. Not to mention the 330 and maybe even the 350 (assuming they get it right and in our lifetimes) would be an added, massive bonus.

Boeing has fumbled on their own one yard line and turned the ball over regarding common cockpit while they were tripping all over themselves stroking off Southwest and Airbus may be about to score all over them and their stoopid tugboat control wheels. Of course that assumes they can convert in the red zone. They've been known to fumble a time or two as well. Either way competition is good for us, and its no longer limited to 2 or 3 legacy manufacturers.