Reroute

Not sure if you've been doing this or not, but when you check in at the kiosk your reservation is found under company business, not crew travel.

I copied the following from Deltanet. You can get the entire instructions by searching "deadhead travel"

From FOM 4.1.1 - Deviations from Scheduled Deadhead
�� No permission is required for a regular or reserve pilot to deviate from deadhead at the end of a rotation, but Crew Scheduling must be notified as soon as possible after the arrival of the last non-deadhead leg.
�� Booking the reservation may be attempted any time after report at the beginning of the rotation.
Facts about on-line end of rotation deviation from deadhead booking:
Note: You must be signed in for your rotation to start the deviation process
�� Once you have completed booking your deviation from deadhead, you must cancel your original DH after arrival of the pilot’s last flying segment prior to your originally scheduled DH via VRU 800-325-2739 option #2, option #2, then option #3
�� When checking in at an airport kiosk after booking a deviation from deadhead, reservations will be found under “Company Business” not under “Crew Travel”
�� You may not book offline (non-Delta mainline) DH deviations. Even if your original DH reservation contained an offline DH, you must book your deviation flights on Delta mainline flights or call Crew Scheduling to coordinate DH deviation (see special notes on last page)

n9810f

Apparently our web site is taking a major dump. All sorts of complaints on Twitter and the frequent flier message board. Some saying they haven't been able to check flights, check-in, etc...since Sunday!

forgot to bid

I know INAV8OR's question was about something else but this does bring up a question I've wanted to make sure I had right...

You get GS pay for your first duty period while on LC where you GS'd into a trip that began within 12 hours. If you got a 2 day then day 2 is just a normal every day reserve, not to unlike when you put in a GS and get a 4 day that stretches from XX days to on-call days, the on-call days are normal the XX days are GS pay with PB... right?

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“Green slip (GS)” means a request by a pilot to be assigned same-day/next-day open time that may generate premium pay:
a. on his regular line days-off,
b. on his reserve line X-day(s),
c. on reserve line on-call days, while on long-call, with less than 12 hours notice, or
d. on his remaining reserve line on-call days in the current bid period after he has accumulated credit equivalent to the ALV in such bid period.

23.U.1.b. A reserve pilot who has flown a GS rotation(s) will receive:
1) single pay and credit for the portion of such rotation(s) flown on his reserve oncall days that occurred before the pilot’s accumulated credit exceeded the ALV (applied against his reserve guarantee), and
2) single pay, no credit (in addition to any other form of pay and credit for the bid period) for the portion of such rotation(s) that:

forgot to bid

FWIW, got a call tonight from family in BOS trying to get to SRQ for a death in their family yesterday. Website, regular phone line and the skymiles line were busy or crashing. Turns out the skymiles phone line worked from ATL so that inspired them to call family in SRQ and they too got through and changed their itinerary.

That's just an observation and I'm not saying that's a good end around, just that it seems as if it actually matters where you call from. I guess the system's ability to help those in need is not handling the demand for help.

Check Essential

Ah... I see what happened.

It was just a semantic misunderstanding.
Asterisks are the computer's way of designating "golden" X-days. They are still X days.
Contract section 12.N.3 and 12.N.4

johnso's explanation was right on the money.

Check Essential

I think you've got it right.
My statement that there's no reserve GS that doesn't touch an X day is incorrect.

forgot to bid

I've never pulled the trigger on a GS while on LC. Just, well, it'd have to be the right situation and none has been offered. I'm weary of the DH'd to the overnight and then start tomorrow, that'd be the GS I get.

I guess it could work if you're on LC today but going into XX days then you could make a 2+ day trip all premium pay.

I'm also trying to figure this out, say the ALV was 72 hours. You get a 4-day GS... seen it on the 88 last year, but it was 1 leg ATL-JAN and on day 4 1 leg JAN-ATL. You'd get pay and credit up to the ALV but just pay after that with no credit, that 4-day just became what... 2-3 or so hours of pay? At first I thought WOW, awesome but now that I look at it again I don't think it was a great trip to get.

johnso29

And that's why we need 5:15 per DAY, not duty period. Or at least some soft pay for calendar day layovers to stop unproductive trips.

forgot to bid

I agree, that would be huge. That right along with SC raw score credit. I mean right now you can have a 2-day trip with a regular Captain and reserve FO and one makes 20 hours and the other 2, both on a GS.

for a moment let me go back to 1.5>80 vs GS... I'm not being a moderate for the sake of peace but I can see the advantages to both depending on where you sit.

However, after looking at it the system that produces the greatest number of pilots and faster movement through the system is preferable to me. When it comes to pay it has to be done on the pay tables in the sense that you don't accept lower pay and say it'll be made up with premium or overtime flying system wide.

But rather you accept a system that will have more pilots on property making a higher wage on less work in comparison to the other system and very very high wages whenever they work more than the average.

I don't care whose system it is, I really just want max numbers of pilots, mass movement and a higher base pay to the potential of fewer numbers, less movement and variable pay for senior pilots. So for now GS system I guess, although it'd be fun to have a system that provided more consistency in premium pay such as a 1.5>80 (with no cap) but I'm not senior enough to hold a line after such a system was implemented and therefore, from my point of view, I wouldn't prefer it over the other.

forgot to bid

Also, if a reserve pilot is over the ALV on hours flown then they should get 2X pay for any GS above the ALV as at that point you've become equal in workload with a regular pilot.