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Old 01-07-2011, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Yeah, you're right Nu. The merger with NWA was a really bad idea for Delta South. What were they thinking?
You heard it here first, folks!

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Old 01-07-2011, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Really? REALLY?

Utter BS.

Delta pilots on this webboard asked for some form of proof/documentation so we could enforce our contract. ALPA went to management. They did investigate, and scope was enforced.
If I recall the story correctly, LM himself dressed down the whistleblower. And until actual documentation of the infraction was brought to DALPA PHYSICALLY was there any "investigation" or enforcement.

Really!
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:55 AM
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Any of ya'll been reading the Airtran SLI thread? It is incredibly entertaining. It is now my new morning chuckle...
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Old 01-07-2011, 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I know I would like to see us get a commitment from the company to not renew, extend, write, or modify any DCI ASA's in this round of talks. The jets should be here, but the company is going to price that very high due to commitments to these third party contractors. It is why a logical phase out makes the most sense.

I agree. We should have a fierce approach to reducing the number of 76 seaters.

Remember....or we are doomed to loose these......


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and they wont say Delta on them!
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Any of ya'll been reading the Airtran SLI thread? It is incredibly entertaining. It is now my new morning chuckle...

It is reminiscent of the ALPA webboard discussions during the NW DAL merger. I for one am glad that is behind us.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Orange juice, meet monitor... yeah, I'm soooo afraid of SWA. What he didn't tell your buddy is that he won't see the left seat for 15 years.

Don't take this the wrong way but......pay wise he doesn't need to. Their third and forth year fo's are making our narrow body captain pay already.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gladioslave
Me neither since me merged with DAL N!!
You obviously have no understanding of the SLI award and how it affects you. I would explain how it increases your chances of becoming a Capt, but I doubt you would comprehend.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Really? REALLY?

Utter BS.

Delta pilots on this webboard asked for some form of proof/documentation so we could enforce our contract. ALPA went to management. They did investigate, and scope was enforced.

That is the problem with DALPA. What do they do all day in the office when they are not sitting around the Happy Buddah or BBQ Kitchen?

DALPA should have been on the leading edge of this. They should constantly have the pulse of what is happening at any given moment WRT scope.

The line pilots were the ones who discovered this and asked for enforcement, and when they did, they were originally berated by Moak.

This happening in light of all that resistance from the MEC in response to the resolution for a scope report card as well ?!?! Shameful.

DALPA has been extremely negligent in enforcing scope at this airline. The line pilots deserve better than what they have currently received to date. There is no attention to detail IRT this issue with DALPA as they do not have their eye on the ball at all.
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Heyas,

RE: The recent lack of scope message.


You will NEVER see a message about scope come out of the MEC Officers. Never.

It's a betting game. "They" risk alienating what is soon to become the majority of ALPA members, versus another group saber rattling about bringing in a new union.

I'm thinking that they're betting right.

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I agree . . . at National. Again, my question is why can't Delta Pilots unequivocally state that we intend to fly all Delta passengers? Screw National, they're a bloated lost cause. What concerns me is that our own pilots, DALPA, resist making this statement ala UCal.

This was the SINGLE reason (not to be a one-issue kinda guy ) that tipped the balance for me to send in a DPA card. I'm all for sticking with ALPA if DALPA can make it clear we intend to make every attempt to start in-sourcing! Anything less is unacceptable.

FWIW I've heard that the new administration wants to hold off firing up the P2P machine until after May because they fear it will connect the pilots and help organize DPA, as apparently that's how P2P was used at USAir to organize USAPA. Btw May is when the oldest DPA cards become invalid as they have to be < a year old for a vote to be forced.

This is disheartening to say the least that they purposely want to keep us from communicating better. How about 2-way communication that results in what the pilots as a whole want - sorta the entire reason for P2P in my opinion???

They could squash DPA tomorrow forever if they took a strong public position that DELTA PILOTS FLY DELTA PASSENGERS!!!
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Old 01-07-2011, 08:21 AM
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Same here. Just wondering if I was doing something wrong. I guess it is just Delta technology


Originally Posted by Jughead
That's happened to me a few times over the last month. I restart my computer and try again, and it works fine. No idea why.
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