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johnso29 03-15-2009 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 578666)
Is it a 12 hour long call?

New,

I got this from the merger section, unofficial guide to Delta reserve thread.....

You can understand a lot about the rules if you remember that you need to get 9 hours rest and need to acknowledge trips 3 hours before report. 9 + 3 = 12, which is the long call leash.


Hopefully we will be seeing some educational publications very soon.

newKnow 03-15-2009 11:04 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 578670)
New,

I got this from the merger section, unofficial guide to Delta reserve thread.....

You can understand a lot about the rules if you remember that you need to get 9 hours rest and need to acknowledge trips 3 hours before report. 9 + 3 = 12, which is the long call leash.


Hopefully we will be seeing some educational publications very soon.

Thanks johnso29. :)

groundstop 03-15-2009 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 578630)
They have only started the training on the 88 guys. It will take at least a month to see any of those guys to hit the line.

Furthermore, it looks like you guys will be flying a lot through the summer at a min.

Until the union signs another LOA!

johnso29 03-15-2009 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 578675)
Thanks johnso29. :)

No problem. :) Hopefully I'll understand all these new rules! :D

Dash8widget 03-15-2009 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by newKnow (Post 578666)
Is it a 12 hour long call?

Like 29 said - long call is a 12 hour call out. Short call is a two hour call and can be either a 12 hour block (domestic) or a 24 hour block (international). Kind of socks for the international guys since with the same 6 short call periods an international pilot is on short call for twice as long as a domestic guy.

BigGuns 03-15-2009 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 578627)
Another question I have, why are the NYC MD88 FO average line values still set high? I thought this was supposed to stop in April? No other category or base is set this high.

It pushed so much flying onto the FO's that it made 38 hard lines and 34 rsv lines. That's near 95% rsv coverage and I still cannot drop crap. Compared to the aprox 48 CA lines & aprox 24 rsv lines? I DON'T GET IT??

I know Shuttle America is now flying 25% of our flying but there is a continued discconnect between FO/CA...

MD80 03-15-2009 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 578530)
Problem is that the MEC as stated by Lee at the LEC 44 meeting, all of those other other airlines are in their current cash situation, unlike DAL because there scope is too tight. The MEC as conveyed by LM sees regional feed and it lower cost as a profit maker that betters the balance sheet and the mainline rates here at DAL. Places like CAL, and AMR are in their minds having issues because they cannot effectively operate the correct jet for the route.
I say, this because that is where the thinking is of our union leadership.

The argument is that we cannot pay rates like that here, and we cannot pay mainline rates for those just, etc. IE lets not find a solution.



Sounds just like the statements made by the MEA030 leadership. Good luck.

FlyinPiker 03-15-2009 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by BigGuns (Post 578683)
It pushed so much flying onto the FO's that it made 38 hard lines and 34 rsv lines. That's near 95% rsv coverage and I still cannot drop crap. Compared to the aprox 48 CA lines & aprox 24 rsv lines? I DON'T GET IT??

I know Shuttle America is now flying 25% of our flying but there is a continued discconnect between FO/CA...

Looks like they might be in the process of a redo. I noticed a lot of 87-89 hour lines....my bet (hope) is they get thinned out.

NWA320pilot 03-15-2009 02:50 PM


Originally Posted by Dash8widget (Post 578681)
Like 29 said - long call is a 12 hour call out. Short call is a two hour call and can be either a 12 hour block (domestic) or a 24 hour block (international). Kind of socks for the international guys since with the same 6 short call periods an international pilot is on short call for twice as long as a domestic guy.

How can they do that to Int'l guys? You have to have rest every 24 hours (max scheduled duty of 15), looks in violation of FARs.........

buzzpat 03-15-2009 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by NWA320pilot (Post 578747)
How can they do that to Int'l guys? You have to have rest every 24 hours (max scheduled duty of 15), looks in violation of FARs.........

That only applies once you actually start flying. The initial call is all the FARs guarantee prior to departure. Once you're on the rotation, the extra rest rules kick in.


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