Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-14-2011 | 08:02 PM
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I don't think this is correct. I believe you can turn down a GS for any reason. You are under no obligation to accept one. White slips are a different story though.
01-14-2011 | 08:04 PM
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A GS that meets your request is not a proffer...
01-14-2011 | 08:10 PM
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I don't know why people complained about the MCO hotel. The hotel was clean, in a safe area, and it was located near everything you could possibly want via the city trolley. The timing of the trolley was reasonable and I believe it was free. And of course, the free hotel cookies !!!
Newport News, not so much. My room had boogers on the wall, and the mold growing in the wall paper was an added touch. The closet doors were off the hinges and stacked up against the wall. The chair in the room was torn in multiple places, and had many prominent bodily stains (edited to keep a PG rating). The hotel's restaurant (and that's an insult to call it a restaurant), served the worst breakfast bar and food I've ever had from a hotel.
But it gets better. Within reasonable walking distance, you have a steakhouse (which wasn't recommended that we go there by the hotel staff) that opens after 6pm, a pancake house, and a gas station. The pancake house owner says to me as I walk in, "you must be a Delta MD88 pilot?" "Yes, I am, how did you know that?" "Because NOBODY walks down this road but you guys." You don't even have fast food options available. Everything else requires a car because of the distance and/or the sidewalks end.
The insult to injury is that the ride to the hotel takes a minimum of 20 minutes; yet, there are malls, shopping, entertainment, good hotels, every restaurant you would want located ONE exit away from the airport. Go figure.
Newport News, not so much. My room had boogers on the wall, and the mold growing in the wall paper was an added touch. The closet doors were off the hinges and stacked up against the wall. The chair in the room was torn in multiple places, and had many prominent bodily stains (edited to keep a PG rating). The hotel's restaurant (and that's an insult to call it a restaurant), served the worst breakfast bar and food I've ever had from a hotel.
But it gets better. Within reasonable walking distance, you have a steakhouse (which wasn't recommended that we go there by the hotel staff) that opens after 6pm, a pancake house, and a gas station. The pancake house owner says to me as I walk in, "you must be a Delta MD88 pilot?" "Yes, I am, how did you know that?" "Because NOBODY walks down this road but you guys." You don't even have fast food options available. Everything else requires a car because of the distance and/or the sidewalks end.
The insult to injury is that the ride to the hotel takes a minimum of 20 minutes; yet, there are malls, shopping, entertainment, good hotels, every restaurant you would want located ONE exit away from the airport. Go figure.
01-14-2011 | 09:19 PM
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One of our DCI carriers has gotten this memo:
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
01-14-2011 | 09:31 PM
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One of our DCI carriers has gotten this memo:
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
01-14-2011 | 09:42 PM
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One of our DCI carriers has gotten this memo:
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
"Performing a pre-flight tactile at the gate is a DL mainline program, not required on Pinnacle Airlines. Both Regional Elite and IDS were notified at the start of the season it was a flight crew responsibility during the pre-flight when working our metal. That said, we do not want to discourage IDS or any ground personnel from notifying the crew when they identify contamination on the aircraft - this would be a direct violation of the clean aircraft policy. Our direction to IDS and RE was a 2nd set of eyes wouldn’t hurt, but the only expected / required tactile would be those required during de/anti icing. If we are experiencing the reverse, where crews are requesting deicing and being refused please let us know ASAP.
Douglas R. Hadley
Manager, Ground Operations
Policies, Procedures & Training "
All DCI planes (at least from this carrier) have to have a pre pushback tactile check before flight now to tell the crews whether to deice, and they are blaming it on us.
Apparently they are saying that all us mainline guys have to have a tactile check by a ramper to tell us if we need to deice before each flight. WHAT... THE.. HECK? And DL mainline is getting charged 50 bucks per plane to tell the pilots whether or not to deice...
I've never heard of this...
Back in the "Red Tail" days, station personnel knew when and how to perform the inspection; it was pretty much automatic. Today, not the case. I'm sure our seemingly random requests for upper wing inspections is causing the confusion. I'll spare you the details of my upper wing ice story. Suffice it to say I am a true believer in the inspection.
01-14-2011 | 10:02 PM
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I completely understand the reason for the upper wing inspection... the MD-88/90's at delta had a fix for the problem with overwing heaters, though.
It sounds like they've taken a single fleet issue at NW and run with it, then? Why didnt we have it when I was working for an NW feeder, in that case?
It sounds like they've taken a single fleet issue at NW and run with it, then? Why didnt we have it when I was working for an NW feeder, in that case?
01-15-2011 | 01:08 AM
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01-15-2011 | 03:51 AM
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I don't know why people complained about the MCO hotel. The hotel was clean, in a safe area, and it was located near everything you could possibly want via the city trolley. The timing of the trolley was reasonable and I believe it was free. And of course, the free hotel cookies !!!
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Not sure why so many people complained about MCO either, I thought it was one of the nicer hotels we had in the system.
New hotel offers free city trolley passes at the front desk, and even without those passes I believe it is $1.25 for one ride anywhere the trolley goes.
($2.50 round trip)
01-15-2011 | 05:25 AM
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They even complained about the old PHX layover hotel, in my opinion, one of the best we had. I guess some people don't like getting exercise while looking for your room.
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