Originally Posted by Imapilot2
(Post 580165)
I read the LOA and I don't see anything about SLOWLY ramping down anything. They certainly didn't SLOWLY ramp it up. Must be one of those "interpretation" things again. I seem to always miss reading those.:rolleyes:
The company is in compliance with the contract on the MD-88. Who at Dalpa told you they were not? The side letter expired in March but the company can still keep the caps at or near the max for a few months. They will pay for it on the back end when they have to meet the yearly average. The displaced pilots will be coming out of training soon and the company can ramp the ALV back down. |
Originally Posted by sailingfun
(Post 580311)
The company is in compliance with the contract on the MD-88. Who at Dalpa told you they were not? The side letter expired in March but the company can still keep the caps at or near the max for a few months. They will pay for it on the back end when they have to meet the yearly average. The displaced pilots will be coming out of training soon and the company can ramp the ALV back down.
I don't see how training has anything to do with this. We only lost one person (new airframe) due to the AE. I think about 6 guys on the bottom of the list now sit MD-88 reserve in ATL. The net effect in NYC hasn't changed because 9 times out of 10, if you were called out for reserve, it was for an ATL trip. We have plenty of MD-88 reserve coverage in NYC. I don't understand why they've kept high ALVs when the total flying has slowed. It doesn't make sense and nobody has yet to explain it to me so that it does. This is also weird in that people near and around me in the seniority list have always been line holders, not so anymore (only one person has come in to category on top of us). Additionally, all I've heard from these road shows is that they're going to fly the you-know-what out of the MD-88 this summer and keeping a high ALV during a month in which they didn't need to doesn't make any sense. -Fatty |
Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
(Post 580033)
The grievance WAS relief. The union's position to the contrary is spin, and poor spin at that.
Nothing can be gained if our union refuses to even take a chance by taking it to arbitration. The fact that the company rolled over and agreed to our interpretation going forward speaks volumes as to how strong our case would have been HAD WE EVEN BOTHERED TO FIGHT! Carl DALPA Contract Administration has taken many grievances to arbitration and won the vast majority of them. They have also settled many cases, some for millions of dollars of benefits. Sometimes a full frontal assault just leaves you battered and bloody. |
Originally Posted by alfaromeo
(Post 580375)
Carl, you of all people should have learned by now that taking a fight to arbitration has risks. The NW pilots had a contract offer and a seniority list offer in February 2008. They insisted on going to arbitration for seniority. Fast forward to December 2008 and they had a contract and a seniority list. The seniority list is basically the same as the one offered in February and the contract is short many millions of dollars.
We managed to eliminate 1000 phantom pilots and the 500 pilot staple. Either way, why do you have to bring this up again? Move along, these are not the droids you are looking for.... |
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
(Post 580116)
You are correct. It is an involved process of ALV per month and TLV for the year.
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 580324)
I am the one who called DALPA and I didn't write his name down. The poster was referring to my earlier post.
I don't see how training has anything to do with this. We only lost one person (new airframe) due to the AE. I think about 6 guys on the bottom of the list now sit MD-88 reserve in ATL. The net effect in NYC hasn't changed because 9 times out of 10, if you were called out for reserve, it was for an ATL trip. We have plenty of MD-88 reserve coverage in NYC. I don't understand why they've kept high ALVs when the total flying has slowed. It doesn't make sense and nobody has yet to explain it to me so that it does. This is also weird in that people near and around me in the seniority list have always been line holders, not so anymore (only one person has come in to category on top of us). Additionally, all I've heard from these road shows is that they're going to fly the you-know-what out of the MD-88 this summer and keeping a high ALV during a month in which they didn't need to doesn't make any sense. -Fatty |
Well that makes me feel better ... I guess.
Maybe I can rolling thunder next month, who know? -Fatty |
Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
(Post 580445)
Well that makes me feel better ... I guess.
Maybe I can rolling thunder next month, who know? -Fatty That will happen until someone like me decides to bite the bullet and pcs a GS with or without conflict out of base and lug my flight case home.....just for 200% pay. :D |
We had a grand total of 5 reserve md88 fo's available in ATL today, as of about 10pm last night.
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 580405)
We managed to eliminate 1000 phantom pilots and the 500 pilot staple. Either way, why do you have to bring this up again? Move along, these are not the droids you are looking for....
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