ExAF just said he has been moderated for calling someone a dou€he. Now there has been two pages untouched using the same term. I'm just calling it as I see it.

 

Default bid in PBS... AVOID MED

World Blog - The race to contain drug-resistant malaria

 

question, if the ATL 320 base comes true how senior do you think it'd go?

 

In the past, I've flown with F/Os that have been coughing or sneezing in the cockpit, and I've asked them to call in sick at the next station. Now, given our crummy sick leave policy, I no longer do that, since I don't want that person's paycheck to be affected.

Lo and behold, now I've flown with many more sick guys, and I've gotten sick much more. Now, because of this and one minor medical issue, I'm on 75% sick pay, too. This policy needs to change.

I would bet that pilot sick leave usage has increased under the current contract.

 

my guess is that the seniority would mirror the 73n category.

 

In SLC it's a bit junior to the 73n.

 

Yup, the LAX flying doesn't have the variety that I was used to in MSP. But, I didn't transfer till LAX started getting some of the Asia flying then I followed it out. I'm not sure if the SLC ER will further dilute the Asia flying or if it will come out of MSP. Until we get SEA and PDX back from Alaska, I don't see how they can build rotations out to Hawaii except for the crappy 3 day 11ish hour trips (ie, LAX > HNL > SEA > MSP > LAX). Homie don't do those crappy 3 day'ers unless I can't hit the AVL without one.

Make the move your dudeness, you'll make a killing in real estate right now.......that and it's blue skys and 65.

Ferd

 

Aren't those contradictory statements? You can't both "notice more guys flying sick" and also observe that "I bet sick leave usage has increased under this contract." I would bet quite a bit that sick leave usage has declined quite a bit ever since the current crappy rules came into being.

I've always had a hard time with both the sick leave abusers and the guys who fly sick. Some fly sick to "save money" and some because they somehow think they are doing DAL a perverse favor. They most assuredly are not.

If you even have to ask yourself, "Am I good to go to fly this trip?" much less hacking up your guts...call in sick right away. Don't get anyone else sick just because you think you can man up! On the other hand, if you screwed up bidding or wish your one-week vacation could somehow turn into two, you don't call in sick just to make things all better scheduling-wise. We have to better than the schmucks in mgmt. Calling in sick "just because" merely relegates us to their thieving level.

 

I'd like more sick leave too, but I have a different point of view on the CBA system.

Remind me again what the CBA incentive to not abuse sick leave was? Did it incent people to fly sick (as Cog thinks our policy does?).

As I recall the CBA accrued 5 hours per month sick leave with a cap of 1200 hours. The PWA accrues differently in that you're granted the equivalent of 8+20 per month, and it's front loaded to 300 hours that reloads every three years. Your annual expenditure is capped at 240 hours prior to transitioning to disability/dpma. That's 120 hours or 67% more sick leave accrued each year than the CBA.

For guys that had more than 1200 hours, the DPMA top-up benefit lets them use all of that time. They get the advantage of the higher yearly accrual (they got nothing under the CBA) and have pay protection.

The PWA system is different, granted, but the PWA 75% trigger is way past the CBA's accrual rate and 75% trigger. For those that moved into this system with less than 1200 hours of sick leave (over half the group) this system offers far more protection.

 

Very true. If a new guy only receives 5 hours per month it takes almost half a year to cover ONE 5 day! THAT encourages people to fly sick IMO. I think the current system is a good one.